Thread: CHALLENGE: Post instructions for a novice to have lucid dreams in five or less sentences

Originally Posted by yaya

LD method in 5 sentences?

well,
1- sleep for 6 hours and then wake up and sleep again after 5 minutes.
2- before falling sleep, tell yourself that you will wake up spontaneously several times.
3- each time you wake up, don't move at all.
4- try to remember your last dream or simply watch your closed your lids.
5- you are in your previous dream or you will have an FA (false awakening) and after doing RC, you are sure now that you are dreaming.

OK i won!

seriously, in this way, if you do these steps everyday, you will have at least 1 LD per week or even more (after weeks of training). i hope it helped.

explain what "RC" means and you've got something pretty spectacular! i know what it means but assuming this could be written on an index card and given to someone, they wouldn't know.

Originally Posted by WarBenifit156

First, write down your dreams. Second, practice reality checks frequently throughout the day. Third, think about lucid dreaming a lot. Fourth, be aware of little details in your life. Fifth, don't try to have sexual experiences in the dream world.

explain what reality checks are and we're in good shape!

i kind of sort of agree with your fifth rule! for beginners at least. it's easy to forget EVERYTHING in the world when a pretty woman talks to you, the same is true for dreams. you could be on the cusp of lucidity and then a pretty dream woman bats her eyes and suddenly you forget lucid dreaming entirely.

is this your thinking? if not, what is your reasoning for this rule?

Originally Posted by sivason

1) Think about lucid dreaming all the time.
2) Develop super high levels of waking awareness
3) Work very hard on dream recall
4) Use a mantra every night as you fall asleep
5) Question reality non stop, all day long



1) Find a genie lamp with a real genie.
2) Rub said lamp
3) Use a wish to get awesome lucid dreaming powers
4) hmmm, no real need for 4 or 5
5) oh 5, get on Dream Views and tell us all the secrets.








Um, Gab my dear, that was something like 12 sentences

what mantra specifically? this is pretty tight, and with a specific mantra and maybe a little more clarification could be something really significant. i'm showing a guy i work with these who is very interested in lucid dreaming but is bogged down with work and school. so far i showed him my ameteur one posted as an example since i hadn't gotten any replies yet, but now that i'm getting some good data i'll see how each one goes and we'll see what we can get out of this experiment!

Originally Posted by StephL

Well - I could spring a sort of trick with my first recommendation and say -

• Read as much as you can about LDing, it will bring you in the mindset and tell at least your unconscious mind what you are after and why.

• Write a dream-journal as extensive and analytic as you manage - note dreamsigns, get more awareness for your secret night-life.

• Choose one or more reality checks and practise them over the day - 10+ times, maybe?

• Do WBTB* with affirmations and intention setting, tell yourself you will detect dreamsigns, RC on strange things, generally - tell yourself you will have an LD.

• Experiment with meditation.

If you want to go down that route - taking supplements might be a worthy companion to these "basics" - just I don't have respective experience. I believe one can get ones first LDs just with this little instruction - except for trying for WILD techs, I got to say I never did anything more than that. But it's not a hobby which requires no effort while awake, one needs to be aware of that to avoid disappointment.

*no acronyms - okay - wake up after several hours of sleep and stay awake for a time - find the time to wake up and to stay awake by trial and error, start with after 6h sleep and maybe 15 min. staying awake.

i love it but explain the esoteric terminology and acronyms? then we may be looking at the zen of lucid dreaming.

Originally Posted by Creation

I have still beaten the less than 250 words challenge, haven´t I?

the 250 word alteration and other changes were a hypothetical possible way to placate the powers that be. however they never replied. so the rules remain as they were in the first post.

Originally Posted by MasterMind

Awareness in one word.

NOW.

Lucid dreaming technique in one sentence:

Practise awareness directly through meditaiton daily.

Theory: Lucid dreaming is originally from the Dream Yoga practise, read about that. Buddhism have existed for over thousand years - why make it a mystery?

hmmmmmm. i like it but, expand?

Originally Posted by BlairBros

You need to allow people more than 20-30 minutes hehe. I like the idea of having a concise method written out as you say but I fear it could possibly reduce the technique/s too much, as there are a lot of intricacies involved with lucid dreaming. Also since every person has massively different experiences there isn't really a one size fits all approach that will always work for everyone, particularly that could be fully expressed in 5 sentences or less. I mean I could say:
Develop dream recall through dream journalling and constant recollection of dreams.
Identify your dream signs through looking back at your previous dreams and finding consistent objects/feelings/people etc.
Whenever you see these in real life perform a reality check such as trying to push a finger through your hand.
While dreaming you will subconsciously perform this reality check when you see your dream sign and bam, lucidity.

Thats a super simple summary in 4 sentences, but: What if a person has no dream signs? What if they cannot remember their dreams even with these methods? What if this person doesn't have the awareness while RCing to carry over into lucidity while dreaming? What about WILD? MILD? What other preparation is needed? What if this method doesn't work for them for some reason? Do you see my point.
Creating one summary to encapsulate everything about lucidity would be impossible as there is so much variance and subjectivity about lucid dreaming. Unfortunately creating a summary of a specific aspect of lucidity like I did isn't too useful either, as there are a thousand scenarios in which it isn't applicable. I appreciate what you are trying to do and wish you luck, I really hope someone could come up with what you are after, but I personally don't think it is possible.
-EDIT My post was more in reference to a complete guide to lucidity rather than a mroe simple guide for begginners, but my opinion is still similar.

you are so right!!!

many hours had passed since the powers that be decided to declare my idea damned and pointless and i assumed that because of this everyone else would ignore it! i'm so pleased and impressed by all of you being your own individual people and not subject to internet feudalism!

i like your technique. could you explain what dream signs are please?

Originally Posted by sleepyzac

the 250 word alteration and other changes were a hypothetical possible way to placate the powers that be. however they never replied. so the rules remain as they were in the first post.

So the only reason why my Post isn´t featured in your quote list is because I´ve smuggled like extra tree sentences in.

…I knew I should´ve just used commas instead. Clearly, nobody would´ve noticed it then.