Thread: Setting multiple alarms one after another in the mornings = easy lucidity?

I do not try to recapture the last dream at all. I use the mantra 100%

I will try it out - as said - recreating didn't bring me back - it ended in nice recall-sessions - will report back!

I try mini WBTBs using water for DEILD, and during one, I used my phone and ended up staying up for an hour. I decided to do a WILD, but couldn't fall asleep. So, I said "SSILD"(sure it was late for it, but meh), so I fell asleep during the warm up cycles, but got a very very aware dream. Could it be bcz of the long stay up? or does it also happen with micro WBTBs+SSILD?

Sooo - one micro-wbtb with a little success!!
I made a mistake with the alarms - the app needs to stay open for them to go off - didn't realize that and had my dictation-thing open.
So - when I woke up naturally quite late - I put on 2 more - on the first - I was still awake - having gone to the toilet and got myself a peppermint tea - went back to bed and tried to mantra - nope fell asleep into a normal dream without remembering, how exactly.

But then came the next alarm - woke me up - and again I did mantra and in my usual sleeping position - aand - second time of my life - I had any sort of HH - and these were strong bodily ones.

It was vibrations and weightlessness-feeling and movement - swerving about and also falling - got to get used to these not to startle myself and get swept with positive excited expectation - got to mantra on and rather ignore them, I guess.
But how can you ignore such intense sensations??

It took me by surprise, too - since it is more than two months ago, that this happened - and that was my second ever WILD try back then after just 2 min. of staring at the back of my eyelids.
I tried many more times after longer WBTB and tried for up to half an hour - and nothing, no WILD - no bells and whistles.
Didn't do any WBTB-WILD tries the last weeks - but before that, when I did - I had a high ratio of following DILDs.
In this case followed a long vivid and beautiful dream - containing 6 (!!) of my classical dream-signs - but I missed out on them - not having prepared myself for their detection..
So I think, I had a real DILD-chance there too!

Yeah - unfortunately - once the HHs started and I paid attention to them - had to actually - they disappeared and I was normally awake.
I think it was real - oh my - should have RCd... Comes to my mind just now.

Soo - I just made use of the one alarm, that woke me up - and I find the result very, very promising indeed!!
Thank you for reminding me of the importance and usefulness of mantras, Sivason!!


Could well be - anything longer than micro-wbtb has made me too awake!
Finally I am really excited again and feel success around the corner!!

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A good iOS app for this could be Lucid Reality Check. One just needs to activate the "Autorepeat Alerts" option and also use the "Exclude Sleeping Time" option in reverse, I mean, if I wanted alerts from 4am to 6am I would set the Sleeping Time from 6am to 4am so that I don't get alerts the rest of the day and night. Good thing about this app is it runs in background mode, so no need to leave it open. It has evolved a lot through the years, so the interface might be a bit complex when you start using it. Oh, and it's free.

Originally Posted by dreambh

A good iOS app for this could be Lucid Reality Check. One just needs to activate the "Autorepeat Alerts" option and also use the "Exclude Sleeping Time" option in reverse, I mean, if I wanted alerts from 4am to 6am I would set the Sleeping Time from 6am to 4am so that I don't get alerts the rest of the day and night. Good thing about this app is it runs in background mode, so no need to leave it open. It has evolved a lot through the years, so the interface might be a bit complex when you start using it. Oh, and it's free.

Thanks for pointing this out, I already have this app. I'll try this tonight! The reverberant sound seems pretty good. The interface of this app though is pretty bizarre, I don't like it at all. It also doesn't seem to let you record your own sound.

BTW, I can write iOS apps so I was about to offer to do one if enough people would spend some money on it to recoup the $99 Apple developer fee... I may still write my own lucid dreaming aid app since none of them out there do just what I want (especially prospective memory training, and the default voice recorder app is terrible since the record/stop buttons are so tiny, the screen is too bright even at lowest brightness levels, and the pause setting makes it possible to lose a recording session without realizing it).

I like using my normal snooze that is not an autosnooze. It prevents sleeping straight through

It works!!
Soo happy - it really works:

My First Alarm DEILD!! - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views

Congrats, for me it just woke me up for 2.5 hours before I could get back to sleep . I did have an almost lucid though after getting finally back to sleep.

At how many hours of sleep did you start the alarms? How much time in between them? Are you generally a solid or light sleeper, do you typically easily get back to sleep in the middle of the night or does it take longer? I wake up really quickly so this may not be for me. I'll keep experimenting though.

Originally Posted by FryingMan

Congrats, for me it just woke me up for 2.5 hours before I could get back to sleep . I did have an almost lucid though after getting finally back to sleep.

At how many hours of sleep did you start the alarms? How much time in between them? Are you generally a solid or light sleeper, do you typically easily get back to sleep in the middle of the night or does it take longer? I wake up really quickly so this may not be for me. I'll keep experimenting though.

Thank you!
After 4-5 hours of sleep - for 5 sec. rather loud, I manage to sleep through them pretty often - every half hour for 6 times.
I am a solid sleeper and can go back to sleep easily - just not, when I try to WILD - that never led to me accidentally falling asleep - it only leads to giving up and then falling back to sleep normally - at least up to now.

I guess, I should try it on my stomach next time - my usual falling asleep position.
While I was in hospital a while ago - and had to sleep on my back - that was really difficult, now I think of it.

And there is still the motivation problem, if the alarm does not fall so optimally timing-wise, like that successful one did.
I am happy, if I at least mantra away a bit upon waking too much - or being awake already and taking it as a trigger to do something.

I set them for30 minutes, but one thing I do different, is that I use a feature on I-phone that requires you to move the phone to snooze it. I set it about where my hand would normally be able to reach it, say laying to one side of my pillow. I can not sleep through it, because it has a fade in feature. I can have it start gentle and use a nice sound. If I do not wake up it gets slowly louder. I will wake up eventually. The moment I am awake, I barely have to move the phone to snooze it. My hand is normally near my pillow, so I barely need to move my hand to cause the phone to snooze.

I do this on weekends, sometimes. I came into it via the term CANWILD. I use Alarm Clock Plus for Android. I wake naturally sometime in the early morning, and then I'll set a succession of "naps" starting from 30-60 minutes, depending on how sleepy/successful I'm feeling. That alarm is followed by several shorter naps 15-30 minutes apart.

I set it up to use no sound but only vibration. Those of you sharing your bed with someone might appreciate this. In the summer I would set it to a single buzz because I was sleeping lightly, but in the winter, it gives me 3 buzzes, then shuts off. I don't have to move at all.

The first alarm may startle me, and I am likely to reach for the phone to shut it off, but then it shuts off by itself and I realize what it was. I drift back to sleep, and the next alarms don't startle me. If I'm in luck, I'll then proceed with a WILD that really is more like a DEILD because it happens very smoothly.