Thread: Multiple lucids in one night? (First time)

That's awesome.

What technique's you using? And how long you been trying for?

I've finally got back into trying for LD's. Been trying for just over a week, I can almost taste it!

If the dreams were one after the other, there's every chance that it was just a basic scene change.

If not, then yes, you had two lucid dreams in one night, congratulations!

Funny enough, last night when I mentioned I could almost taste a LD was coming along, ta da! I had a my first since I started getting back into the swing of it

Originally Posted by CHiLLEN_AU

Funny enough, last night when I mentioned I could almost taste a LD was coming along, ta da! I had a my first since I started getting back into the swing of it

Congratulations. What exercises and methods are you using since getting back to lucid dreaming?

Originally Posted by wouterjongeneel

Congratulations. What exercises and methods are you using since getting back to lucid dreaming?

Thanks

I have been checking my surroundings often and RC when something odd happens, which led to a DILD. Also I used the Actors method before bed which may have bought on the LD.

I'm trying to get good at DEILD. I used Mantras such as ''Do not move when I awaken'', ''Do not open my eyes when I awaken'' before bed, which has been working surprisingly well. I definitely under estimated mantras, was amazed really.
I've been trying for about 4 - 5 days now, and have hit sleep paralysis twice for the first time ever, but ruined it by seeing if I could swallow once, and the other time I was too groggy and must have bailed on it.

This is the Actors Method AKA Dry spell killer.
Upon laying down to sleep you need to alter your state of mind. Basically, act as if you are an expert/experienced lucid dreamer and you know 100% that you will have a lucid dream. Don't only say/think to yourself that you will have a lucid dream, but truly 100% believe that you will achieve your goal easily. The best way to describe this "state of mind alteration" is to compare it to acting. Many actors and actresses "get into character" for their particular roles. They will spend several days (or even longer depending on the actor/actress) acting as if they are a completely different person to better prepare and play their role. Basically, you are trying to "get into the character" of an experienced/expert lucid dreamer. You could even go as far as getting into the character of "The Best Lucid Dreamer Ever." The idea is to fall asleep knowing and expecting yourself to become lucid, because you have done it millions of times before and it is easy for you. If you can do it correctly, and truly convince yourself that you will achieve lucidity, than it will greatly raise your chances of success. During a dry spell, I do this for as many nights as I need to break it. I usually am able to overcome my dry spell the very first night trying. Make sure that if you do not succeed, that you stay "in-character" and tell yourself/convince yourself that last night was a fluke and there is no way you won't become lucid the next night. You would be surprised how well this simple method can work. All it takes is a bit of "acting" !

Originally Posted by CHiLLEN_AU

Thanks

I used Mantras such as ''Do not move when I awaken'', ''Do not open my eyes when I awaken'' before bed, which has been working surprisingly well. I definitely under estimated mantras, was amazed really.

Everything I've read says to only use positive assertions in mantras / autosuggestion phrases since the subconscious tends to ignore negatives. You could be getting the opposite effect of what you want! Rather say, "I remain still when I awaken", "My eyes remain closed when I awaken".

Originally Posted by CHiLLEN_AU

Upon laying down to sleep you need to alter your state of mind. Basically, act as if you are an expert/experienced lucid dreamer and you know 100% that you will have a lucid dream. Don't only say/think to yourself that you will have a lucid dream, but truly 100% believe that you will achieve your goal easily. The best way to describe this "state of mind alteration" is to compare it to acting. Many actors and actresses "get into character" for their particular roles. They will spend several days (or even longer depending on the actor/actress) acting as if they are a completely different person to better prepare and play their role. Basically, you are trying to "get into the character" of an experienced/expert lucid dreamer. You could even go as far as getting into the character of "The Best Lucid Dreamer Ever." The idea is to fall asleep knowing and expecting yourself to become lucid, because you have done it millions of times before and it is easy for you. If you can do it correctly, and truly convince yourself that you will achieve lucidity, than it will greatly raise your chances of success. During a dry spell, I do this for as many nights as I need to break it. I usually am able to overcome my dry spell the very first night trying. Make sure that if you do not succeed, that you stay "in-character" and tell yourself/convince yourself that last night was a fluke and there is no way you won't become lucid the next night. You would be surprised how well this simple method can work. All it takes is a bit of "acting" !

That's genius. It sounds quite difficult though, tricking your brains into something like that. How does this work out for you? Is this the first LD the 'Actors-method' caused? And do you only use it right before bed? Wouldn't it be more adviseable to maintain this 'role' all day every day? My apologies for all these questions, I hope you could answer them

Thank you for your reply!

Originally Posted by wouterjongeneel

That's genius. It sounds quite difficult though, tricking your brains into something like that. How does this work out for you? Is this the first LD the 'Actors-method' caused? And do you only use it right before bed? Wouldn't it be more adviseable to maintain this 'role' all day every day? My apologies for all these questions, I hope you could answer them

Thank you for your reply!

I used it to achieve my first DILD since returning back to lucid dreaming 3 weeks ago. About 5 mins before bed, I paced up and down my room acting as if I was a cocky lucid dreaming god. I was even doing the facial expressions, of someone that was acting cocky. Really tried to get myself into character. As I got into bed, I was thinking of how good I was and how I am the master of lucid dreaming and have them every night. I even was thinking about the paparazzi that would be out the front of my house when I left in the morning. I was that good at lucid dreaming, that I was actually famous.

It sounds silly, but I think that was how I had the DILD. I wasn't perfect and my mind did doubt what I was saying from time to time, but you just got to keep it up and try to leave that in your mind as you fall sleep.

No problems with the questions, any time.

Good luck, let us know If this works for you.

Originally Posted by FryingMan

Everything I've read says to only use positive assertions in mantras / autosuggestion phrases since the subconscious tends to ignore negatives. You could be getting the opposite effect of what you want! Rather say, "I remain still when I awaken", "My eyes remain closed when I awaken".

Yep, you're right. I changed up my mantras to ''I remember to not move, and keep my eyes closed when I awake up''. I'm thinking of shortening it, by saying 2 separate mantras like what you mentioned.

Originally Posted by CHiLLEN_AU

Yep, you're right. I changed up my mantras to ''I remember to not move, and keep my eyes closed when I awake up''. I'm thinking of shortening it, by saying 2 separate mantras like what you mentioned.

You still have a "not" in there which is a negation, you have to use a verb other than move because it requires negation to remain still, so why not just "remain still".

Originally Posted by FryingMan

You still have a "not" in there which is a negation, you have to use a verb other than move because it requires negation to remain still, so why not just "remain still".

Thanks again mate, I see what you mean.

New mantras,
I remain still when I awaken
I keep my eyes closed when I awaken