The discussion I want to bring up here is the discovery that a dream state was triggered by light rapidly flashing onto the closed eyelids of a man (Brion Gysin) while on a train. Sunlight supposedly flashed through the window as he passed tree's, buildings, and other objects, and while he was fully awake, he had a full 3d vivid experience. The man then created a lamp and shade system that recreated flashing lights at a certain frequency and was said that this triggered the vivid life experience, that we today know of as Lucid Dreaming.

"He built the Dreamachine in 1961. Described as "the first art object to be seen with the eyes closed",[12] the flicker device uses alpha waves in the 8-16 Hz range to produce a change of consciousness in receptive viewers."

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Watch information about it here.





The news story above shows a very fast flashing light imitating this and the news anchor seems to have some incredible experience from it. This is not an advertisement for the link in the video as I have heard the company involved may be unreliable.

What is this? Is this something anyone has experimented with or used? Is it the same as a real life wild or even something worth experimenting further with?

A search in these forums for Brion Gysin turned up nothing of signifigance so I thought this may be worth our discussion here.

There is a free version of this machine via website to be used with a laptop or computer. Using it I get weird visualizations, but have never tried it more than a minute or two.. also.. I read that the lights have to be very bright and that a computer probably cannot re-create the effect so I don't count on this as a test but more as a light example.

THE ONLINE DREAM MACHINE

After reading all the information above, what do you think?
Anyone have any experience with this?