Thread: Finding a way to set up a FILD/DEILD without fail

One of my favorite methods of lucid induction is the FILD method, however lately I have been having problems waking up naturally. Now I am trying to find a way to do FILD without having to rely on waking up in the middle of the night spontaneously, and have an idea.

What I want to do is to wake up from an alarm, and then going to bed with the intent on waking up 5 minutes later, with the intent to FILD upon re-awakening.

This sounds like it should work, and if anyone has done this or wants to try it tell me your results.

Also, I do things like this on occasion when I turn my alarm off instead of snooze and want that last 5 minutes, but I feel like I can improve. Sometimes I don't wake back up, sometimes I do, and sometimes I take too long. If anyone has their own way of waking themselves back up after they fall asleep, please tell me. It can be a position you lay down in, or whatever. Right now what I am doing is slightly embarrassing and I'm not even sure how well it works.

Anyway, though I have used this to wake up before my buss pulls up, now I will try to use it to get lucid. Good luck to anyone who tries to use this.

I'm sorry, I don't use an alarm and I have never tried FILD. But it sounds interesting.

I wake myself up at night by drinking water every time I wake up. That works well for me. But if you need to stay motionless for FILD, this may not work. Good luck

Check out CrazyInsane's CANWILD method here. What I do is wake up for a WBTB and then turn on an mp3 that is 30 minutes of silence followed by a beeping sound. I just use my PSP and keep it near my bedside so I can quickly turn on the mp3 and go back to sleep. 30 minutes later the beep goes off and, ideally, I should wake up without moving.

Maybe this is the kind of thing you are looking for?

Like Dino said if you are struggling to wake up naturally then either wake up unnaturally or try a different technique.
Why not learn to become lucid in a dream and then teach yourself to DEILD when you wake up from that lucid? Just a thought.

As DinoSawr said, the CANWILD technique is VERY useful. I have found great success with it. A big issue with that is finding some sort of app or device that will play a short sound and turn off. However, if you have a phone with calendar alerts or reminders, you can set a short (2-3 second) sound to go off at the right time. With a little time, you'll find the precise time in your sleep schedule and volume needed to just barely wake you up. If you get it right, you can basically induce a DEILD rather than relying on possibly waking up after a dream.

I'm reading it now. I do remember this method, and for a while I was trying it. After searching for an app on my ipod that had an auto-turn off alarm, I began experimenting. I spent a few days trying to find a setting where it wouldn't go on for too long or loud, or too soft and short. While I tried to find that combination my ipod broke =( . Anyway it says I can do this for PC, does anyone know if I will have to keep it open all night?

Edit: right now I am going to do a wbtb at 530, during which I will turn on my laptop and set the alarm.