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      So this helped me A LOT when attaining lucidity! Give it a try

      Alright so this may have been said before but I tried it and holy shit it works wonders. So here goes: I've completely stopped masturbating! I'm on day 8 right now with no porn, masturbating, or orgasm and last night I had 4 lucid dreams, 4 in one night!!! I couldn't believe it. Basically ever since I stopped I have had better dream recall and throughout the day I seem to be more aware and do more reality checks. My memory has increased so much when it comes to lectures at class. There's this video called "Your brain on porn" that you all should watch, I don't have the link but if you google it you should find it.

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      Can you sum up the video for us? I watched most of it but I wasn't sure what the exact relation it had to lucid dreaming.

      Also congrats on the 4 lucids in one night, hope you got everything you wanted to do done in that time.
      So what your saying is basically if you stave off from sexual activity you are more likely to have a lucid dream... but why?

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      Well in relation to lucid dreaming the video doesn't say much but it's sort of explains what goes on in the brain when masturbation occurs, dopamine release and addiction symptoms. The reason that it increases your ability to lucid I think is related to your awareness, ever since I stopped I've just been much more aware of everything in my life, my memory has gotten better and I don't even know why I just know it has, I haven't yet looked up the scientific reason behind it.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Avalanche View Post
      Can you sum up the video for us? I watched most of it but I wasn't sure what the exact relation it had to lucid dreaming.

      Also congrats on the 4 lucids in one night, hope you got everything you wanted to do done in that time.
      So what your saying is basically if you stave off from sexual activity you are more likely to have a lucid dream... but why?
      what the video is saying all your actions and decisions are commanded by your mind seeking the feeling it gets as a result of the brain producing "dopamine" and releasing it in the brain. And its saying the biggest things that trigger the most dopamine which is what humans are after is things like sex and orgasim, extreme sport, adreline rush, food etc etc. Its also saying how if you keep relying on anyone source for dopamine e.g porn, orgasim, masterbation etc it will make the receptors in your brain num and damages the receptors required to recieve the released dopamine, so it only recieves limited amount of dopamine. Theres only 2 ways to get more dopamine at this point. One way is to get more dopamine is to find a new source which is more exciting or makes you happier, e.g you might play video games then when you had enough your sub councious is looking for the next thing which would give it higher level dopamine then playing games, Might be eating food, seeing friends, playing with pet etc. But your sub councious woint go back to video game at least after searchign for a better source. e.g if you masterbate when your done, you woint want to masterbate and urge woint come up for a little while at least, but if suddenly a hot girl came layed next to you could do it straight away and your brain gets triggered cuz it recognises there oppertunity for much higher dopamine release then just masterbation. 2nd option is not to do the activity for some time, depending of how much dopamine you get from the source determines how much time is required for the urge to come up again where the mind seeks dopamine from that source. The higher the reward the less time its required.

      So what the other guy is trying to say with masterbation is, that masterbation provides amongst highest possible release of dopamine, so if you masterbate and go to bed LD isnt exactly big on the sub-counciouse mind regardless of how much you want it counciously, so it reduces your chances of success. But if you stop masterbating your mind is desperate for the feeling it gets when dopamine is released, so at that point it recognises LD as a good potential source, where if you have the support of your subcouncious inorder to achieve LD it will significantly increase your chances. i tried it after a drought and it worked will try again tonight, but basically thats the link between the video and LD
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      But....its....fun....

      On other matters, I guess it might help but I would say it's only a factor and that you just had a 'good' night, well done there though!

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      I thought masturbating was healthy
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      Quote Originally Posted by RemoteVicinity View Post
      I thought masturbating was healthy
      It is but too much masturbating is bad, its just like anything else, in moderation its good too much is bad

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      I'm watching the videos now and I'm starting to understand how watching porn and too much of other stimuli affect the brain. Thanks for sharing this OP. I think this may change my everyday life in several ways.

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      Quote Originally Posted by RemoteVicinity View Post
      I'm watching the videos now and I'm starting to understand how watching porn and too much of other stimuli affect the brain. Thanks for sharing this OP. I think this may change my everyday life in several ways.
      Yeah it's changed mine drastically in the time of one week, I started a gym routine, started learning the guitar, studying more. All the time and energy I had put into masturbating has an actual use now haha and no problemo always willing to share any info I got.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Yuskey View Post
      Yeah it's changed mine drastically in the time of one week, I started a gym routine, started learning the guitar, studying more. All the time and energy I had put into masturbating has an actual use now haha and no problemo always willing to share any info I got.
      Yes, it's like it suddenly dawned on me how important it is, and how easy it should be, to not yield to cravings. Now that I can recognise and understand what's happening when I get cravings and know the consequences, it all seems ridiculously easy to deal with. Thanks again, and I'm so glad I took the time to watch the videos, and I recommend all to watch them if you think you spend too much time watching porn, eating a lot of unhealthy food, etc.

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      The only way I could think this would be a factor would be in terms of altered brain chemistry after masturbation, perhaps there's some hormone/endorphin kick that isn't conducive to lucid dreaming?
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      I will quote this on the effects of dopamine (the pleasure endorphin) from vitaminsdiary.com:

      "Dopamine is a neurotransmitter that is naturally produced in the body. It is present in the regions of the brain that regulate movement, emotion, motivation and the feeling of pleasure. Dopamine stabilizes the brain activity, regulated flow of information to other parts of the brain and controls movement."

      "Dopamine controls the flow of information to other parts of the brain."

      And This from biopsychiatry.com

      "[dopamine] has thus to be considered as a key neuroregulator which contributes to behavioral adaptation and to anticipatory processes necessary for preparing voluntary action consequent upon intention"


      So it could be that an excess of dopamine affects the cognition during sleep in a way which is detrimental to lucid dreams

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      Yeah when you masturbate you produce dopamine and dopamine is the chemical required for addictions. In terms of porn, the more you watch it the more you find yourself wanting something more exciting. That is the dopamine talking, basically your used to the dopamine fix from regularly masturbating to a certain porn and the new one gives u more dopamine. Basically theres a 90 day challenge to completely reset your brain and dopamine levels and this is what I'm doing. Today is day 8 and I already feel changes, both physically and mentally.

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      the sacrifices a manmust make to become lucid

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      So this explains my drop in lucid dream count
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      Quote Originally Posted by mcwillis View Post
      So this explains my drop in lucid dream count
      Word!
      Quote Originally Posted by Rothgar View Post
      You just cant "beat" lucid dreaming, can you?
      Hahahah!

      But yeah, I've noticed that too. I thought it have just been a placebo I put on myself, but.. On another note, I wouldn't recommend completely quitting masturbation. *looks at Weakamon* Heheh

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      Quote Originally Posted by fOrceez View Post
      Word!

      Hahahah!

      But yeah, I've noticed that too. I thought it have just been a placebo I put on myself, but.. On another note, I wouldn't recommend completely quitting masturbation. *looks at Weakamon* Heheh
      Yeah, but it also has a lot of positive side-effects *also refers to weakamon's thread*. Look at Jakro's posts for example.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Spyguy View Post
      Yeah, but it also has a lot of positive side-effects *also refers to weakamon's thread*. Look at Jakro's posts for example.
      Yeah Jakro's posts are a real inspiration. As for weakamon... LOL
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      this thread is retarded

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      Quote Originally Posted by Marsupilama View Post
      this thread is retarded
      Just because you probably weren't allowed to do it as a boy.
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      ......

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      Quote Originally Posted by Marsupilama View Post
      this thread is retarded
      This ^^

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      You just cant "beat" lucid dreaming, can you?
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      The reason you're experiencing all these beneficial effects is probably due to something completely unrelated to masturbation, but what the heck, I've been wanting to stop for a while, and have tried several times, and even watched that video series prior in desperation, LOL. This is good enough motivation for me so now I think I'll give this challenge a go and see if it helps my awareness and such.
      ...DAY 1!

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      I don't masturbate at all and my chastity doesn't affect my abilities to lucid dream one bit. Maybe it works for you because you put so much effort into masturbating that you forget to do other things like RC?
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      That wouldn't explain the apparent sudden increase in awareness, focus and memory capacities O.o

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