Tired of trying

I've been trying to have LDs now for about a month all with little success. I normally use the DILD method but I always end up forgetting that I need to realize I'm in a dream. I've tried the WILD method a couple of times including just now. I have been laying here for well over half an hour in sleep paralysis and keeping my mind conscious. This only results in me getting bored because it normally takes me no longer than ten minutes to fall asleep. Can anybody help me? Like I said I'm getting tired of trying.

Pretty much every technique demands you keep with it for a longer period of time. If you ask any of the people with high lucid counts that aren't natural LDers, they will tell you it takes practice and you cant give up.

try DEILD it's more direct and is pretty easy. Search for some guides lol

Don't worry, my initial hype didn't get me a lucid straight away either. It took me over a month to have a noteworthy LD. And as you can see, even after a little over a year joining this site, I still haven't had that many.

Patience is Key, and practice, and eventually we'll all get to where we want to be.

I've been trying a few years(2 years before I came here but I didn't know as much) and I'm still looking for that first one. I reason I believe this to happen to be is I quit far too quickly. You need to keep at it and you'll get it eventually.

Thanks everybody, I will keep at it. It just so happens that I tried eating cheese last night because I saw it in a thread somewhere and it must have worked. I can't remember if I knew I was dreaming or not but I remember being in control of a few things. Would this be classed as lucid or semi-lucid?

Lucidity basically means being aware that its a dream... In non-lucids you can still exercise a certain amount of controll. but for it to count as lucid you must be aware you are dreaming. If you were, then congrats!

Also, it took me about 3 months of trying every night to DILD and using mantra's etc... Once your first one is out the way it gets a lot easier.
Im having trouble with WILD too.... Im almost there and its taken me a while to get as far as i have come. Anything good takes time.

Also try not to stress about it as that can make it a lot harder. Hows your dream journal coming along? Have you worked out your dream signs ?

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Lucidity basically means being aware that its a dream... In non-lucids you can still exercise a certain amount of controll. but for it to count as lucid you must be aware you are dreaming. If you were, then congrats!

Also, it took me about 3 months of trying every night to DILD and using mantra's etc... Once your first one is out the way it gets a lot easier.
Im having trouble with WILD too.... Im almost there and its taken me a while to get as far as i have come. Anything good takes time.

Also try not to stress about it as that can make it a lot harder. Hows your dream journal coming along? Have you worked out your dream signs ?

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Hmmm Don't think I was lucid then in that case, oh well I know what I'm doing now :) My dream journal has quite alot of entries, about a months worth but I put last nights one im my online DJ here: Travelling, a false awakening and a Colosseum. - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views (Not sure if this link is allowed or not, if it isn't then I'll be happy to remove it) My dream signs are useless, I only have one and that's long black hair. Something that can be seen in waking life anyway :L Other than that one I'm still looking for some good ones.

Just means you should RC when you see long black hair, for now. Which will be annoying.

A couple of examples of my dreamsigns;

• Being at school, or feeling as though im in a lesson.
• Being chased.
• Seeing old school friends.
• Fighting.

Yeah especially if I keep seeing people with black hair lol it would be a long day. Don't people give you funny looks doing these RC's in broad daylight?

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Yeah especially if I keep seeing people with black hair lol it would be a long day. Don't people give you funny looks doing these RC's in broad daylight?

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Well for one you could style it out - rub your nose a little then hastily plug it and try to breathe. Or maybe rub your hands together a lil then sneakily try to poke a finger through? =P I've done lots of styling it out in regards to reality checks when I'm out in public or with my friends that haven't really heard about LD'ing yet.
There are also many other "internal" Reality checks that you can do, such as if you just think to yourself "where am i? - I'm at the store - why am i here? - to buy some milk. - How did i get here? - I walked round the corner - How long did it take? - about 7 mins"

When your dreaming you will often find that you arrive at your destination without actually travelling or you may be somewhere and not know why. These simply questions you can ask yourself can really help you out. And have actually made me lucid before too. So if your in public and don't wanna look like some stoner checking out your hands, just do that ;)

Good ideas, I will certainly have to try these :) thanks for your help :D

The best pieces of advice I got on lucid dreaming come from Naiya and I forgot the other person... dang...

Naiya said that you should give every technique a good few weeks before quitting. You are basically rewiring how your brain processes things innately, so it will take time. I use 90 days because 2 weeks or so humans can build a routine, and 3 months we can build a habit.

The other person, who I really hate that I forgot their name, said (His thread was called "New Key to lucid dreaming") to imagine that lucid dreaming is easy and that you are a natural. Don't just say it, but believe it. Once I incorporated this a bit, I started to have better dream clarity. It's worth a shot.

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Pretty much every technique demands you keep with it for a longer period of time. If you ask any of the people with high lucid counts that aren't natural LDers, they will tell you it takes practice and you cant give up.

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Exactly. Don't quit. My friend has been trying for about 4 months and still has nothing in return. But she isn't giving up! It has taken me over a year to get where I am. Keep going and you will get as good as me, and other amazing lucid dreamers on this forum. Keep at it.

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I've been trying to have LDs now for about a month all with little success. I normally use the DILD method but I always end up forgetting that I need to realize I'm in a dream. I've tried the WILD method a couple of times including just now. I have been laying here for well over half an hour in sleep paralysis and keeping my mind conscious. This only results in me getting bored because it normally takes me no longer than ten minutes to fall asleep. Can anybody help me? Like I said I'm getting tired of trying.

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Trying to WILD as the first thing you do when you go to sleep is like begging for trouble. You will rarely succeed. Most WILD methods also require you to perform a lot of relaxation techniques, which are often derived from traditional spiritual practices, but these in reality are mostly waste of time. Relaxation techniques, if performed unsccessfully, typically result in more anxieties and tension. Even if correctly executed, they do not put your mind/body into the correct state demanded by phase entrance either. Please realize this -- meditations are NOT the same as WILD!

I just posted a tutorial which I believe may help you learn how to WILD more effectively. The steps described in that tutorial have been tested by hundreds of people, and many of them had success the first time they tried it. Hope it will work for you too.

You can find the article under the title "A Practical Recipe for Inducing LDs and OBEs".

1. Frequent RCs
2. MILD
3. Have a LD

Thank you, come again.

Perhaps you should take a rest from trying. You may be to low on energy to lucid dream and trying so hard with all the conscious effort is wearing you out. Maybe take a break. Then pick up on techniques again. Wake up back to bed normally is the easiest way to have a lucid dream. Just make sure your tired enough to fall back to sleep. Don't over think it.

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Originally Posted by saltyseedog

Perhaps you should take a rest from trying. You may be to low on energy to lucid dream and trying so hard with all the conscious effort is wearing you out. Maybe take a break. Then pick up on techniques again. Wake up back to bed normally is the easiest way to have a lucid dream. Just make sure your tired enough to fall back to sleep. Don't over think it.

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Well I think my body/mind naturally takes a break because after a near lucid experience my dream recall goes completely for about a week.