Can you only DEILD after LD's or normal dreams as well?

**dreamer0** · 07-04-2011 07:01 PM

This related to another post of mine elsewhere, in the thread, someone had said that you can only DEILD after a lucid dream.

My question is simple, can you do DEILD after a normal, non lucid dream as well?

**Hyu** · 07-04-2011 07:07 PM

Yes, you can, but it is difficult to identify when you've woken up from a non-lucid dream and try to avoid moving.
It is possible to train yourself to remain still when you wake up though, but from my experience that doesn't work all the time.

**BugsBunny** · 07-04-2011 07:17 PM

Yes, you can DEILD after a normal dream, I did it several times.

**dreamer0** · 07-04-2011 07:34 PM

Thanks for the posts, I most of the time stay still, i have trained myself, so i should be able to do this method.

BugsBunny, do you have any tips for me? or do you just follow normal tutorial?

how long does it take for you, thanks. and do you see hypogognic imagery when you wake up. thanks.

**BugsBunny** · 07-04-2011 08:34 PM

Originally Posted by dreamer0

Thanks for the posts, I most of the time stay still, i have trained myself, so i should be able to do this method.

BugsBunny, do you have any tips for me? or do you just follow normal tutorial?

how long does it take for you, thanks. and do you see hypogognic imagery when you wake up. thanks.

It's easier to do when your body is very relaxed because you don't need to move.
Don't move when you wake up and keep your eyes closed, imagine you are in your last dream.

I learned this myself naturely and I don't see Hypnotic Imagery when I wake up.

**Puffin** · 07-04-2011 08:34 PM

You can train yourself to not move as soon as you wake up. Each time you wake up after a normal dream, catch yourself as soon as you can and don't move anymore. You might end up changing your position in bed, and moving a lot at first. But, if you keep doing this, eventually you'll wake up and not move at all, which can result in a DEILD.

It's easier to DEILD after a lucid because you know exactly when you're going to wake up, and you can anticipate when you're going to be back in your bed. If you anticipate DEILDing while the dream's ending, though, you should watch out for false awakenings. I've entered a few of those before, because I "knew" I wanted to DEILD when some of my lucids were ending.

**dreamer0** · 07-05-2011 12:29 AM

Thanks for the replies guys

Puffin, I have trained myself to do this already, and thats why I asked the question, because someone said that its only possible after LD's and not normal dreams.

Bugsbunny, after waking up and and not moving and beggining DEILD, do you see imagery then? or do you just suddently find yourself in a dream instantly?

thanks for the replies once again

**TheAuthor** · 07-05-2011 12:56 AM

Originally Posted by dreamer0

Bugsbunny, after waking up and and not moving and beggining DEILD, do you see imagery then? or do you just suddently find yourself in a dream instantly?

Question wasn't directed toward me, but you will most likely enter sleep paralysis when trying to DEILD. It can occur between ten to thirty seconds after you start concentrating on the DEILD. Of course, there's also the possibility of a 'seamless' transition between waking and dreaming...it depends on luck.

**Dark_Merlin** · 07-05-2011 08:35 AM

I've used mantras before to make myself recognise when I'm awakening out of a non-lucid dream many times, but unfortunately I haven't DEILD from any dreams yet, but I'm sure it's possible!

**BugsBunny** · 07-05-2011 09:43 AM

Originally Posted by dreamer0

Bugsbunny, after waking up and and not moving and beggining DEILD, do you see imagery then? or do you just suddently find yourself in a dream instantly?

When I enter in a dream with DEILD:

- a picture appear and I enter in this picture(dream) in 1-2 secondes
- or I sens my body in the dream before I can see
- or I am in a dream instantly