Thread: Transitioning from a DEILD to a LD

I'm stuck in the same position as you! I haven't been able to transition in a WILD or DEILD before. Every time you fail you notice more and more and it gets closer and closer though, I'm just keeping at it!

good for you I haven't been able to transition (on purpose) in while trying to WILD either, all I can think about is not moving which isn't helpful! I have come out of a dream in SP. I have spent so long today and various times in the past researching Astral Projection and I do believe at this point I reached it. I enjoyed the SP for a little while then rolled out of my body, sank out then rolled out again until I was in my room standing. I was aware and everything around me seemed to be the same. I don't really see much of a distinction between Lucid dreaming and Astral Projection other than the "entities" and the fact that it's realistic while Lucid dreaming is more... dreamy. Ugh

I haven't been able to enter SP or WILD yet, but I do seem to be able to DEILD. The first time I did it was by accident, I didn't really know there was a technique like that, then I did it another two times afterwards...

For me, it's a really odd experience. It sort of goes like this:
I begin waking up from an LD and once I realise I'm in my bed, obviously I don't move, but I don't think about not moving and I don't think about my breathing or anything either. I don't even think about the dream too much, it just rests at the back of my mind. Both times I actually tried to do it, it felt like it wasn't going to work or maybe that I was too awake, but all of a sudden I found myself back inside the dream.

I don't even notice myself going back to sleep or being taken there, it's really strange...

Keep trying!

I did the same thing woke up from a lucid dream and didt move but nothing happens so i moved is it because i opened my eye because every time i come out a lucid my eye are open

Study the breathing pattern that you adopt when you're deeply relaxed, or about to fall asleep. For me, my breaths are lighter (I don't take as deep of a breath), but each inhale lasts about 4 seconds, the exhale slightly less time. Keep up the breathing pattern you happen to have when you're asleep or deeply relaxed, when you wake up. If you breathe differently than you do when you sleep, it tells your mind that you're awake, therefore stopping the SP. Needless to say, if you ever want to get out of SP, breathe deeper or faster, or differently than you were when you got into that SP episode.

When you catch yourself waking up, don't try to feel what position you're lying in; try not to pay attention to your bed at all, if possible. Focus on maintaining your consciousness and mentally creating a dream scenario. Imagine you're in the dream you just woke from, visualizing the scenery and imagining auditory, tactile, and other sensations. I find that imagining the sense of touch is very helpful in having a successful DEILD. The dream reentry itself, from my own experiences, often feels like my whole body is being forcefully pulled forward. A few times, the DEILD ended in a false awakening so I had to do a reality check to make sure I wasn't still awake, and had failed the attempt. 99% of the other times, I enter a new dream. Rarely do I actually make it back into the previous dream; who knows why but maybe that's just how my mind works.

Hope that helped!

When I DEILD, usually I don't do anything and it only takes a second for me to be in a dreamscene.
I have never had problems with transitioning the only thing is my breathing is really weird, I see rolling dreamlets and just try to enter, I have blown it a few times by changing my breathing pattern though...

Thanks for all your helpful comments!

Puffin, thanks for all the detail and I'll study my natural breathing deep relaxation breathing habits!

Linnypig, that makes sense too, I might try and just keep my mind relaxed and try to just let my body do it's thing


Do you guys normally DEILD after you wake up from a LD, After a sleep cycle, or from something waking you up?

I've only done it right after waking from an LD because I've never remembered otherwise.

Yeah that's how I try too