Thread: Possibly the best lucid trigger?

Hi,
So I haven't had many lucid dreams since I only joined three months ago but I do keep a dream journal and even if I don't write in it every day last night I was looking through it and I noticed something.... Have you noticed that in MOST dreams, you are talking with people, or at least interacting with them?
I've only ever had two dreams in which I was walking around and I was alone and only then I wasn't preoccupied with whatever "issue" or "situation" there was in a dream to look around and realize I'm dreaming. In every single one of my other dreams there were ALWAYS people. So here's what I propose...

When you talk to someone, tell yourself to look around, listen to your surroundings, ask yourself if the conversation you are having makes sense, basically raise your awareness briefly every time you come across a person or are talking to them and by making that a habit eventually it should transfer to your dreams and have a much higher success rate than traditional RC triggers such as clocks or light switches.
This is in many ways similar to the All Day Awareness technique but the problem I find many people come across with in terms of ADA is that the only times they think about doing it and try raising their awareness is when they're NOT busy or preoccupied with other stuff. Tell me what you think

Sounds like a good theory but unfortunately, I don't talk to people in my dreams. I'm usually by myself doing something or playing a game.

Lucky I WISH I was by myself in my dreams, then I would be lucid all the time

I interact with people in my dreams, but not "a lot". I find that when I become lucid, it's at completely random times, regardless of whether or not I'm on a spaceship, at home, or talking to someone. The awareness is good, but I wouldn't confine it to just when you are having a conversation with someone; I'd raise my awareness other, multiple times during the day. I don't know if it's been confirmed that when you always raise your awareness while doing something specific, you'll have a lucid if you do that in a dream.

I like the sound of that! I'll try this Thanks!

Interesting theory, but I rarely interact with DCs. My most vivid LD's are when I am alone. Oh, there are usually people around but I purposely do not interact with them as, in my experience, it hastens and end to the LD.

If this works for you, that's great. The higher your awareness, of anything, the higher your chance of becoming lucid.

Yeah I tend to interact with dream characters in almost every dream I have now that I think about it. I'll start looking around and maybe even doing some movement-free reality checks when I talk to people in real life. Thanks for the tip!

too bad I don't have a life and barely talk to anyone in WL....

Sounds like a good idea, now I just have to find a DC to talk to

That is what I call "Anchoring".

Taking an object, or interaction you are likely to pursue in the Astral planes and performing reality checks when encountering it.

I too find myself among endless crowds of people in my dreams, probably due to my occupation. Performing those reality checks, or elevating your state of awareness during that interaction is very effective, though difficult to execute as it will appear to the individual that you just had an absent seizure. Of course it is very important to execute your reality check with the up most enthusiasm and certainty. Remember, apparitions in the astral planes will look at you unusually like a regular person would, as they try to convince you that the plot of your dream is in fact reality.

Yea, thats sounds like a very interesting theory!!! It is alot like ADA but as you said, people usually do it when they aren't busy or pre-occupied!
Im going to try this out as I am currently on a dry spell, and need to get some more LD's!!

It would be good if people who try this could post up some results!!

I'll try it out for a few days, give you my results. I'll try and remember to do it every time im talking to someone.

Also, just maybe an addition to it, dont only do it (Increase your awareness) when you're talking to someone, but do it also when you are looking at someone doing something, like, something cool etc.
Because if you've noticed, your DC's sometimes to really wierd things in dreams, so if you also do it when you notice someone is doing something (anything) it might also work.
Just a thought.

Originally Posted by NightSpy2

Yea, thats sounds like a very interesting theory!!! It is alot like ADA but as you said, people usually do it when they aren't busy or pre-occupied!
Im going to try this out as I am currently on a dry spell, and need to get some more LD's!!

It would be good if people who try this could post up some results!!

I'll try it out for a few days, give you my results. I'll try and remember to do it every time im talking to someone.

Also, just maybe an addition to it, dont only do it (Increase your awareness) when you're talking to someone, but do it also when you are looking at someone doing something, like, something cool etc.
Because if you've noticed, your DC's sometimes to really wierd things in dreams, so if you also do it when you notice someone is doing something (anything) it might also work.
Just a thought.

Thanks NightSpy! I wanted to make changes to the initial thread post and credit your name and a bunch of others in it for making suggestions too. Looking forward to seeing results!

Originally Posted by alexr

Thanks NightSpy! I wanted to make changes to the initial thread post and credit your name and a bunch of others in it for making suggestions too. Looking forward to seeing results!

Cool thanks man!!
I'm sure something will come of this.

How about doing a finger trough hand RC every time, instead of being aware? Because I'm already using kingyoshi's ADA. But nice theory.

yes i think i practice ADA when i am not busy. Or if i suddenly remember to do ADA.
I also talk with people or people generally are talking in my dreams. So I will try to be conscious then.
Good pointer, hope it works. Fingers Crossed

Thanks alexr

So basically, do R.C.s and be aware when you do things in real life that you know you do in dreams?

Because a lot of video game related things happen or are in my dreams, so what your saying is if I really try to associate being aware with thinking and using games, they will carry over into my dreams?

So again it's basically the principle of R.C.s, but focused so the chances of being lucid are increased, but the chances of having the opportunity go down.

If I think about it, i dont actually really talk to DCs.... but good theory still.

Originally Posted by TheModernNinja

If I think about it, i dont actually really talk to DCs.... but good theory still.

It doesn't matter. Just do it when you see someone doing something weird, or see one of your mates etc etc.
Just the point is, is that so that you transfer your awareness/RC's w/e, into your dreams.
Whenever you talk about a random subject, whenever they something random, be aware, do an RC.. Etc

Yeah, Origami, that's exactly what I'm saying in a broader sense if you have commonalities between your dreams and real life, as long as you feel it's relevant enough, you should do RCs when you encounter said common elements. But I'm just trying to outline one of the more outstanding ones, interactions with people. But if you are like, trying to make weak connections like "I see chairs in real life and dreams so I should do RCs when I see them" then that wont work, because remember, it's not like we are going to be raising awareness all the time if the element we are focusing on has little or no recurrence in a dream. By making the connection of people(or other common subjects) and awareness, we are making awareness second nature because the brain will learn to automatically relate people to being aware just like how for example seeing a chalkboard makes us think of school.

Yeah, I agree. Being aware all day is like trying to do an R.C. everytime you encounter air in real life. It happens so often that eventually your R.C.s get unionized into your real life, so eventually they have no effect at all. R.C.s are supposed to stand out and make you open your eyes for a bit. If you do them all day every day like people say, eventually they will be as monotonous as breathing or blinking.

Originally Posted by Origami

Yeah, I agree. Being aware all day is like trying to do an R.C. everytime you encounter air in real life. It happens so often that eventually your R.C.s get unionized into your real life, so eventually they have no effect at all. R.C.s are supposed to stand out and make you open your eyes for a bit. If you do them all day every day like people say, eventually they will be as monotonous as breathing or blinking.

Im sorry, but I have to say that you're wrong..
You see, thats the whole point of doing an RC, is that you are checking whether it is actually REALITY. Which requires you to pay more attention to what is happening around you (Increasing awareness).
Of course, if you just go, BAM! Nose plug RC... or BAM! Finger through palm RC... Without really paying attention, You're never going to get anywhere!!
It's meant to be done enough, to raise your overall awareness which is supposed to transfer into your dreams.

Night Spy2

Or try doing an RC whenever you see something that commonly happens in your dream (If anything).
So for example if loads of your dreams have grass in them, whenever you see a park, big lawn etc. do a RC.
If there's nothing specific in all your dreams, do a RC whenever you remember.

I'll give this a shot. I agree, my dream journal results clearly show that most of my dreams involve other people. I think this could help me out, I'll let you know how it goes.

I'm saying that if you do them enough, they will carry over to dreams and work the way they should. But if you do them too much, like I was saying before, they become too habitual and simple that you do them without thinking, when eventually you do it in a dream and don't even notice it.

I'm not talking about doing them, I'm talking about doing them too much.