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      Hands down brother, it's ADA. I have an inkling that its better not to go down the route of 'tricking' your brain into doing stuff but working with it, finding what you can do to make it easy for your brain to encourage lucid dreaming, instead of like, sabotage. Rearrange the circuitry, don't insert new circuitry? LOL

      Anyway, yes, ADA is the best method, it is increasing your awareness so that it passes over into the dream. This is naturally how it should be, because in actual fact you know when you are in reality 100% of the time right, no question. THen why can't it be the same for a dream. If you've had a lucid, it feels like a lucid, not reality. No amount of reality checks or reprogramming your sleep cycle will make up for that simple fact, so its just about recognizing it. Within 2 days of practicing ADA, I had 2 lucids on consecutive days. So after doing it for 2 days, next 2 days I had my first lucids. They didn't last long but I'm a beginner. I stopped for a week, no lucids, tried keeping a journal, reality checks, etc.. But 2 days ago again I started practicing it, and then, TODAY i had 2 lucids the same night. Heck, in those lucids i didn't even reality check, i knew they were dreams, and had a very high level of lucidity, even managed to change the landscape, lasted longer, AND i could utilise my senses more, i actually heard detailed sound in my dream and that has NEVER happened to me. Birds in the forest, and twigs here and there, it actually amazed me. Only being aware in reality gives that experience, ADA. I want to get to the point where I never reality check ever, and just have that heightened awareness so I can notice when im dreaming like 95% of the time.

      So yeah check out Yoshi's guide in the 'Attaining Lucidity' Section, can't post links yet :/
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      Wow, seriously? That sounds brilliant. I will definitely give that a go. So I just have to be self aware for as long as I can, all the time? That's hard, I tried it, but hey, if you got good results, I may as well try it. And I can still do CAT at the same time, really. So win win. If this really is as good as you make it out to be, then I will be thanking you so much.

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      Quote Originally Posted by MrMarley View Post
      Hands down brother, it's ADA. I have an inkling that its better not to go down the route of 'tricking' your brain into doing stuff but working with it, finding what you can do to make it easy for your brain to encourage lucid dreaming, instead of like, sabotage. Rearrange the circuitry, don't insert new circuitry? LOL

      Anyway, yes, ADA is the best method, it is increasing your awareness so that it passes over into the dream. This is naturally how it should be, because in actual fact you know when you are in reality 100% of the time right, no question. THen why can't it be the same for a dream. If you've had a lucid, it feels like a lucid, not reality. No amount of reality checks or reprogramming your sleep cycle will make up for that simple fact, so its just about recognizing it. Within 2 days of practicing ADA, I had 2 lucids on consecutive days. So after doing it for 2 days, next 2 days I had my first lucids. They didn't last long but I'm a beginner. I stopped for a week, no lucids, tried keeping a journal, reality checks, etc.. But 2 days ago again I started practicing it, and then, TODAY i had 2 lucids the same night. Heck, in those lucids i didn't even reality check, i knew they were dreams, and had a very high level of lucidity, even managed to change the landscape, lasted longer, AND i could utilise my senses more, i actually heard detailed sound in my dream and that has NEVER happened to me. Birds in the forest, and twigs here and there, it actually amazed me. Only being aware in reality gives that experience, ADA. I want to get to the point where I never reality check ever, and just have that heightened awareness so I can notice when im dreaming like 95% of the time.

      So yeah check out Yoshi's guide in the 'Attaining Lucidity' Section, can't post links yet :/
      You put forward a convincing argument But yeah, I had a lucid after my first 2 days of ADA.

      But at the sametime it isn't 'easy', reliable yes, but it requires focus and if there are important things that require your attention and thinking time/short term memory at the moment, I wouldn't recommend it just yet. For example, I'm about to go into exams, and I certainly don't want to clog my short term memory with stuff that would usually pass straight through my sensory memory.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Origami View Post
      Wow, seriously? That sounds brilliant. I will definitely give that a go. So I just have to be self aware for as long as I can, all the time? That's hard, I tried it, but hey, if you got good results, I may as well try it. And I can still do CAT at the same time, really. So win win. If this really is as good as you make it out to be, then I will be thanking you so much.
      Yeah, definitely max your chances with doing the CAT at the same time, and keep a dream journal aswell. But I really think it'll work for you, ADA is a very intuitive way for LD'ing, I doubt it wouldn't work for someone.. really. Origami, definitely work at this though, you'll have your first lucid soon enough! ;D

      Quote Originally Posted by Ctharlhie View Post
      You put forward a convincing argument But yeah, I had a lucid after my first 2 days of ADA.

      But at the sametime it isn't 'easy', reliable yes, but it requires focus and if there are important things that require your attention and thinking time/short term memory at the moment, I wouldn't recommend it just yet. For example, I'm about to go into exams, and I certainly don't want to clog my short term memory with stuff that would usually pass straight through my sensory memory.
      Yeah, it's definitely not easy, quite overwhelming at first, but it gets easier after a couple of days doing it. In your memory? I'm not sure about that, the whole point of it is that you are 'aware' and 'in the moment' so you would experience all these things and you would be aware of them, and know they happened, but then they move on, its just specifically in the moment, you don't store it in memory, well you shouldn't..

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      Quote Originally Posted by MrMarley
      Quote Originally Posted by Ctharlhie
      You put forward a convincing argument But yeah, I had a lucid after my first 2 days of ADA.

      But at the sametime it isn't 'easy', reliable yes, but it requires focus and if there are important things that require your attention and thinking time/short term memory at the moment, I wouldn't recommend it just yet. For example, I'm about to go into exams, and I certainly don't want to clog my short term memory with stuff that would usually pass straight through my sensory memory.
      Yeah, it's definitely not easy, quite overwhelming at first, but it gets easier after a couple of days doing it. In your memory? I'm not sure about that, the whole point of it is that you are 'aware' and 'in the moment' so you would experience all these things and you would be aware of them, and know they happened, but then they move on, its just specifically in the moment, you don't store it in memory, well you shouldn't..
      The stuff you notice in ADA is the stuff that usually just passes through your sensory memory and is discarded 2 seconds after entering your brain. By paying attention to this environmental stimuli it is processed through your short term memory where it is typically lost after 18 seconds. However, say you pay attention to the same stimuli for a while, you focus on what it looks like, how it feels, how it sounds; you're rehearsing it. In that case it can stay in your short term memory and even be transferred to your long term memory. Think about all the things your eyes look at in a day, now think about all your other senses, it's a lot of sensory input to process.

      Of course there are certain sights, sounds, feels, smell, tastes that you come into contact with all the time. It's why you are able to visualise your room, remember the smell of freshly mown grass, the taste of bread etc.
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      Quote Originally Posted by MrMarley View Post
      Hands down brother, it's ADA. I have an inkling that its better not to go down the route of 'tricking' your brain into doing stuff but working with it, finding what you can do to make it easy for your brain to encourage lucid dreaming, instead of like, sabotage. Rearrange the circuitry, don't insert new circuitry? LOL

      Anyway, yes, ADA is the best method, it is increasing your awareness so that it passes over into the dream. This is naturally how it should be, because in actual fact you know when you are in reality 100% of the time right, no question. THen why can't it be the same for a dream. If you've had a lucid, it feels like a lucid, not reality. No amount of reality checks or reprogramming your sleep cycle will make up for that simple fact, so its just about recognizing it. Within 2 days of practicing ADA, I had 2 lucids on consecutive days. So after doing it for 2 days, next 2 days I had my first lucids. They didn't last long but I'm a beginner. I stopped for a week, no lucids, tried keeping a journal, reality checks, etc.. But 2 days ago again I started practicing it, and then, TODAY i had 2 lucids the same night. Heck, in those lucids i didn't even reality check, i knew they were dreams, and had a very high level of lucidity, even managed to change the landscape, lasted longer, AND i could utilise my senses more, i actually heard detailed sound in my dream and that has NEVER happened to me. Birds in the forest, and twigs here and there, it actually amazed me. Only being aware in reality gives that experience, ADA. I want to get to the point where I never reality check ever, and just have that heightened awareness so I can notice when im dreaming like 95% of the time.

      So yeah check out Yoshi's guide in the 'Attaining Lucidity' Section, can't post links yet :/
      ADA is crap in my opinion. The DILD's are random and it takes work. I like to use DEILD and MILD.

      Honestly there is no BEST lucid dreaming technique. Everyone is differient.

      I was always a dreamer, in childhood especially. People thought I was a little strange.-Charley pride

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      Quote Originally Posted by Ctharlhie View Post
      The stuff you notice in ADA is the stuff that usually just passes through your sensory memory and is discarded 2 seconds after entering your brain. By paying attention to this environmental stimuli it is processed through your short term memory where it is typically lost after 18 seconds. However, say you pay attention to the same stimuli for a while, you focus on what it looks like, how it feels, how it sounds; you're rehearsing it. In that case it can stay in your short term memory and even be transferred to your long term memory. Think about all the things your eyes look at in a day, now think about all your other senses, it's a lot of sensory input to process.

      Of course there are certain sights, sounds, feels, smell, tastes that you come into contact with all the time. It's why you are able to visualise your room, remember the smell of freshly mown grass, the taste of bread etc.
      Maybe.. maybe.. I'm still not sold though, lol. It feels like, it's just always there, the feel of my foot on the floor, my breathing, the sounds going on around me, what significance do they have if they are daily occurences? Just because you pay attention to them doesn't mean they will stay in your memory, they are still just as non-impacting to your life as when you didn't notice them. Unless of course you want it to give it significance... it's just stuff that happens all the time, mentally i keep it that way. I'm actually revising for exams atm too, imma practice ADA heavily and see how this pans out for me, obv not when studying.

      Quote Originally Posted by dakotahnok View Post
      ADA is crap in my opinion. The DILD's are random and it takes work. I like to use DEILD and MILD.

      Honestly there is no BEST lucid dreaming technique. Everyone is differient.
      ADA is crap? Eeek have you tried it properly? I wouldn't be so quick to call it crap, maybe try it again.. it's a good method when stuck to.

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