Thread: is there ANY technique that doesn't require these things?

Focus is a requirement for life, dude.

I recommend meditation to get those thoughts in order!

Well, if you can't focus on something more than a few seconds, change the topic into a story-like adventure, so that you are constantly changing the topic, but always related to dreaming.

Don't get frustrated if your thoughts wander. That is one of the main ways we fall asleep. WILD is not like traditional meditation. You have to let your thoughts wander a little so you will fall asleep. The trick is to keep reminding yourself of your goal. Just make an effort to try and remind yourself that you are going to become lucid. You are going to recognize the dream when it starts. Keep bringing your attention back to that every so often, but don't stress about keeping it there. Bounce back and forth between your intention and your drifting, sleepy thoughts.

Raspberry, how do i meditate then?

thanks Robotbutler, i'll try that i guess.

There are different methods, but the one I like (when I actually meditate. I'm not a hardcore meditator) is clearing your mind (although this may be difficult for you at first, you'll get better) and focusing on your breathing. Only your breathing. Don't force your breath, just observe it. Feel what it's like to inhale and exhale.

When you catch your mind wandering, bring it back to your breathing. This will teach you focus and not to let your thoughts wander so easily, which I think would be beneficial to you

Eventually you'll reach a stage where you're kinda "in a zone". You're just there. I like it

Take some bong hit's, then focusing on 1 thing at a time becomes much easier.

Take some bong hit's, then focusing on 1 thing at a time becomes much easier.

Lol weed makes my mind go crazy with off the wall thoughts and makes it harder for me to focus on one thing. It is awesome for meditation though, the CEVs can be pretty epic if you are stoned enough.
And I have to disagree with what is being said about meditation. Clearing your mind is only the first step; you should use this to quiet your conscious. After that you should let your subconscious take over. When I am in a really good state of meditation my mind is being bombarded with a constant flow of thoughts and images, but my conscious is detached and simply aware of the thoughts. I feel this state is very similar to WILDing. Simply observing either the HI or the subliminal thoughts without engaging any of them.
And regarding the OP. No. If you are going to lucid dream you kinda have to do at least one, if not all, of those things.

When I am laying in bed I visualize the floor of my dream that is all I think about. If I think about anything more complicated I get distracted. But I visualize the floor, if I am lucky (which I often am) my mind builds the rest of the dream around the floor I have already thought of and I can walk in to the dream fully lucid. Try this.

my mind wanders like crazy too. ill try to focus on all day awareness and bam im thinking about something else without realizing it. i just bring myself back to ADA and do reality checks. happens all the time to me and every time i bring my mind back.