Method for Attaining Lucidity

Hey Dreamviews!

Ok, so I have been in a slight drought with LDing. Even DEILD has not been working well for me. After I wake up from a dream, I keep my eyes closed, and find I can't sleep, until eventually I just stop trying to LD and fall back into sleep. Oddly I always have dreams, many of which are quite abnormal, but rationalize the scenarios I am experiencing somehow, and fail to recognize that they are dreams.

So, this morning, after several failed DEILD attempts, I remembered to use the double affirmation while I lay with my eyes closed after waking from a dream. I repeated "I am dreaming" and spelled the words in my minds eye. It was incredible! On two occasions a blue computer screen appeared before me which said "Input Commands".

I again wrote "I am dreaming" into the computer (in fact I wrote three different sets of commands into the computer, not sure how), and on one occasion I felt the awesome waves of SP come over me, but was woken up by my GF. On the other I went into a full scale LD, although it didn't last super long unfortunately.

I used the double affirmation again in conjunction with a DEILD later again, and again saw a huge contract appear before me in which I could read the letters clearly (forget what they said unfortunately). Unfortunately after the vivid HI I just slipped back into good old oblivious dreamland. I would have preferred to be lucid, but hey, dreamland in general is a pretty cool place to be.

Anyway, happy dreaming everyone!

Thanks for the update Nightmare!

I too seem to have hit some kind of block but that's probably with the exams coming closer. I have no time for naps, and when I attempt a WBTB I just fall asleep too fast again. I have had once though where I was unable to fall back asleep, so it's always something:P
I think if I saw the blue screen of death appearing while I was trying to lucid, I'd wake myself up out of complete hatred :D But apparently it helped getting you lucid... Did the screen just pop up like that or did it slowly show itself (as most of my HI seem to do)?

Hey Ayanizz.

Yeah, the blue screen just showed up. It wasn't a blue screen of death either. I quite liked it and welcomed it as an entry into full scale dreaming. I input in the commands "I am dreaming" and became lucid :)

Nightmare ,can we also use ''I'm am dreaming about etc'' as well?

wow that sounds pretty cool. i am going to trythis i hope it works

Wow....this method sounds quite interesting! I will definitely give it a try once I get my dream recall back up:)

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Originally Posted by Dancr

Nightmare ,can we also use ''I'm am dreaming about etc'' as well?

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Hi Dancr,

Yes you certainly can use "I am dreaming about..." The main thing about this method is the visualization. It has also worked best for me in conjunction with WBTB or taking naps. Let me know if you have any more questions

Which method do you think would work for me better nightmare? ,I knew about lucid dreaming this year and I want to know exactly how to attain it to get the dream I want so much

Hey Dancr,

What works best for me is visualizing the words "I am dreaming" scrolling across the back of my eyes, and repeating the same affirmation mentally. Use this in conjunction with naps or WBTB. Also, if you have not had an LD yet, I recommend checking the stuff on stabilizing your LDs such as rubbing your hands together. Good luck, LDing is the absolute greatest.

Sometimes nightmare I'm unable to control myself in a dream and how do you have a clear vivid vision in a dream?

I've never had a WILD or a LD for that matter but I'm going to try this.

Like Nightmare's first post, I'll simply repeat "I'm dreaming" in my head's voice and visualize it on the back of my eyelids. I'm aiming for a white chalk on chalkboard look with no scrolling.

I'll tell you how it turns out.

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Originally Posted by Dancr

Sometimes nightmare I'm unable to control myself in a dream and how do you have a clear vivid vision in a dream?

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Hey Dancr. The best way I have found to have very vivid dreams is by falling backwards in your dream and imagining a new dreamscape. Often times it will appear, but often times you will have a false awakening which is why it is important to reality check as soon as you wake up as often as possible. Aslo, if you like the dream you are in, rubbing your hands together in your dream works well also.

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Originally Posted by Birdydreams

I've never had a WILD or a LD for that matter but I'm going to try this.

Like Nightmare's first post, I'll simply repeat "I'm dreaming" in my head's voice and visualize it on the back of my eyelids. I'm aiming for a white chalk on chalkboard look with no scrolling.

I'll tell you how it turns out.

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Please do!

Can you lucid dream at will with this method?

iv had some success with this , but sometimes i do it and before i know iv already woken up the next day thinking what happened. althought i didnt do the mentally write it down but i will tonight.

Does this have to be a nap? Can I do it when going to sleep normally at night?

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Originally Posted by Saurfang

Does this have to be a nap? Can I do it when going to sleep normally at night?

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Hi Saurfung,

You can do this when going to sleep normally at night, but I have had the best success using this method with naps. A wake back to bed of any kind would work too I'm sure. If you are asking if you can use this method right after going to bed at night, you can try, but I never have had success LDing right as I go to sleep at night, and you'll find many of the members of DVs have not either.

how many hours of sleep do you need in order to lucid dream?

Strange. I read this thread yesterday and was quite excited to try a method similar to this. To my amazement i had a lucid dream, not one but many in one night. I couldn't believe how vivid it was and the fact that i had a lot of control. What i did was get into bed and prepare to sleep. I kept repeating " i am dreaming...do a reality check." i repeated this many times and then decide to visualize a car. When i was visualizing it i started to focus on small details of the car to make my visual more vivid. At the same time, i repeated "i am dreaming...do a reality check." After a while i started to dream non-lucid and suddenly something clicked and i felt i am in a dream. I then checked if i was dreaming by doing a reality check and thats when my lucid journey began. Now the thing is, when i have become lucid in the past, i have never done a RC. I would just know i am lucid without checking. Yesterday i did a reality check and i believe it had something to do with me repeatedly saying to do a reality check before sleeping

hmm, sounds like a MILD (some milds do include visualization). however, this does seem effective, especially with visualizing an affirmation, so ill give it a few tries. i havent had a normal DILD in so long, and have had to rely on FILD and my failed WILD attempts which are WBTB i think. but these either take to long or i ruin them by moving, so this one sounds pretty sweet. anyway i was wondering, you said it could have something to do with you moving your eyes, does anyone think that moving them rapidly can help out with WILDs, since it may help copy REM?

Hi siuol,

I would not recommend moving your eyes too fast, however, if you have ever seen someone in REM sleep, you will see that the eyes sort of twitch back, forth, up and down. Instead of trying to move your eyes exclusively as a means of simulating REM, try visualizing something and observing it as if you were awake. This will hopefully have the double effect of attaining a visualization as well as simulating REM.