The "Inception" Technique - Tried and True

**Snowboy** · 10-08-2010 10:40 PM

Originally Posted by A dreamer168

I'm using tape. I had a vivid, but not lucid dream.

Have you ever experimented with this technique, but used a watch? It basically serves the same purpose as the cardboard.

That doesn't work, I wear a watch all the time and I don't get lucid dreams as often as this guy claims. It's great for RCs, though! You just look at the time several times and see if it changes. The first time I did RC in a dream with my watch the time was 80:15 or something like that, so it should work really good!

**Zelgius** · 10-09-2010 12:27 AM

This is very much a placebo.

**mcguinnessdr** · 10-09-2010 05:36 AM

I've had 3 lucids using this method. I'm not sure why this works, probably a pressure point. I doubt it's placebo because the first night I tried it I expected it to fail, and it worked great. I have a friend who I suggested it to, but it didn't work for him at all.

**Moorehouse** · 10-10-2010 05:29 AM

I didn't expect it to work, but last night I put on my watch, turned it onto the pressure point, and tightened it a bit. I'm starting to get curious about this technique.

**NrElAx** · 10-10-2010 06:19 AM

Originally Posted by Moorehouse

I didn't expect it to work, but last night I put on my watch, turned it onto the pressure point, and tightened it a bit. I'm starting to get curious about this technique.

Did it work for you. I think you forgot to put your results.

**Emiko** · 10-10-2010 04:44 PM

I tried this again on 10/7, but couldn't remember any dreams at all in the morning because I wasn't trying to, hence no DJ entry for that day. I slept without the bracelet for a couple of nights, then put it on again this last night. Still no lucid dreams yet, but I did have another completely convincing FA, just like the first night. Details will be in my DJ in a bit.

**Moorehouse** · 10-10-2010 05:26 PM

Originally Posted by NrElAx

Did it work for you. I think you forgot to put your results.

Sorry, got ahead of myself there. xD
Yeah it did work, had a lucid(though it was short), and great dream recall along with it!

**Zelgius** · 10-10-2010 08:37 PM

... This thread needs to be renamed. "The Placebo Effect - Tried and True"

**NrElAx** · 10-10-2010 09:49 PM

I'll try this tonight again, but it hasn't worked for me. But I'm also doing a wbtb with my LDS, so I'll probably be LDing tomarrow morning

**eicca** · 10-10-2010 09:58 PM

Originally Posted by Zelgius

... This thread needs to be renamed. "The Placebo Effect - Tried and True"

Your condescension is appreciated as always, thank you

**vmenge** · 10-11-2010 06:34 AM

Originally Posted by Zelgius

... This thread needs to be renamed. "The Placebo Effect - Tried and True"

I'm pretty sure we all read what you wrote the first time

So eicca, still getting results?

**Lunaticus** · 10-11-2010 06:27 PM

I shall try that tonight, I believe a pressure point could help with lucid dreaming.

**Emiko** · 10-11-2010 06:35 PM

I had another brief lucid dream tonight (details in my DJ entry for October 11), but because I'm not very good at keeping track of what order my dreams were in, I'm not sure if I had it before or after I took my bracelet off. I'm sorry! Tonight I'll leave it on the entire time.

**eicca** · 10-11-2010 09:37 PM

Originally Posted by vmenge

So eicca, still getting results?

Haven't tried for a few nights. I've been busy with other stuff.

BUT

I'm now thinking the bracelet could also be used as an effective anchor for the WILD technique. I'll give it a shot and let you know how it goes.

**vmenge** · 10-11-2010 10:26 PM

Well, I'm going to try this with rubber band and a 1x1 inch piece of cardboard tonight (if I manage to find any rubber band in my house

).
I'll post my results tomorrow

**Brooooook** · 10-11-2010 11:57 PM

I tried this last night, and had success. I used one of those bracelets (that are usually sold for fund-raising) taped to a bunch of plastic pieces stacked onto each other until it was maybe 8 mm wide. Put it on my wrist, taped it into a slightly tighter bit so it was always guaranteed to touch my wrist. I didn't expect it to work, so it surprised me when, before I had even woken up (I wake up several times a night and do FILD) I suddenly became lucid from a DILD. However, I did wake up shortly after, before I could remember a goal and do something, and didn't sleep well the rest of the night but for one part where I had a long and vivid dream about a train. I'll be posting this in my DJ asap.

Long story short...tried and true!

A hint to everyone else who's trying it - the way you can tell if you have the right 'point' is if you press on it and your hand tingles. Good luck!

Edit: Link to the post.
http://www.dreamviews.com/f32/90-day...3/#post1546207

**Jay12341235** · 10-12-2010 12:20 AM

Originally Posted by Zelgius

... This thread needs to be renamed. "The Placebo Effect - Tried and True"

all of your posts I have seen you make so far have been about this thread being a placebo. Do you just NEED more attention?

**Watchman** · 10-12-2010 12:51 AM

Good thread and very interesting!

Have an idea that will send the "Placebo Effect" people crazy! Instead of cardboard, why not try a very small polished quartz (or other) crystal?

**NrElAx** · 10-12-2010 02:08 AM

So I found out that the pressure point is three finger widths above the first crease on your wrist(going up your arm in the middle) .so I'm going to try it again tonight and tape it there because I was taping it lower before.

**simm** · 10-12-2010 09:56 AM

Who cares if it is a placebo effect, if it works, it works. That is what this section is all about, finding stuff to try out.

**Emiko** · 10-12-2010 03:06 PM

As promised, I left the bracelet on the entire night tonight. Still no lucid dreams. Will continue trying.

**BridgetJones09** · 10-12-2010 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by Brooooook

Long story short...tried and true!

A hint to everyone else who's trying it - the way you can tell if you have the right 'point' is if you press on it and your hand tingles. Good luck!

Edit: Link to the post.
http://www.dreamviews.com/f32/90-day...3/#post1546207

I needed that info, thank you! (the right point)

To the rest: Read my post #49 in this thread and stop bothering with the frigging placebo effect! Please and thank you!

**Lunaticus** · 10-12-2010 05:12 PM

I tried and it failed, but I suspect a large part of that was to do with the fact that the bracelet came off some point during the night (its a stranp of leather with a square piece of wood tapen to it, tied around my wrist).
I shall try it again tonight and hope that the bracelet stays on this time.

**Kaizer** · 10-12-2010 06:38 PM

I just tried this last night and I finally broke out of my two month dry spell.

Then the construction outside my window woke me up

Regardless, I think that we are due for further research into the mechanism behind this technique.

**Watchman** · 10-12-2010 08:05 PM

Originally Posted by SamJoe

So, do you have any sources or something stating that this is not just a load of bull (which is how it comes across to me).
If you ask me I think it's just a placebo effect delivering you those lucid's.

There might just be a reason why the original thread was deleted...

But that's your opinion though...

Nothing to do with Lucid Dreams...However, here has been a lot of research and clinical studies made by eminent medical scientists. Researchers are so impressed by the results that they recommended that acupressure should be investigated in all sorts of clinical situations...(Sleep disorders as well perhaps?).

I've come across a series of research studies related to the stimulation of the P6 acupressure point at Internet Health Library.

All acupressure points are currently being researched across the world with interesting results, including the use of ultrasonic therapy and magnetism etc on these pressure points.

I'd like to point out that in a way you are correct, acupressure will help a great deal with dreams, vivid dreams and dream recall etc, but nothing in this world will ever cause a LD, that's all down to the individual I think.

BTW, the pressure point that eicca showed you on page one, is not P6 because it's too far up the wrist. I suggest it's closer to the "Daling" point at PC7...I believe.