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**rynkrt3** · 09-13-2010 02:32 PM

Hello DV. I was wandering what a good mantra for DEILD would be. Every night I listen to a recording of myself saying "I will wake up after every dream, and remember my dream. And sure enough, I wake up after most of my dreams, remember them, and write them in my DJ. To me it seems stupid that DEILD is not more popular than it is. If done right, it's a guaranteed lucid. Anyways, I was wandering what I good mantra would be for DEILD, maybe "I will wake up after every dream, remain still and keep my eyes closed?"

**JimmyD** · 09-13-2010 02:41 PM

It's amazing you can wake up after every dream by telling yourself that. But don't you get tired in the day?
I assume saying "I will wake up after every dream, remain still and keep my eyes closed" would work.
Or just saying ''I will DEILD'' may do the trick. (But I wouldn't really know).

**rynkrt3** · 09-13-2010 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by JimmyD

It's amazing you can wake up after every dream by telling yourself that. But don't you get tired in the day?
I assume saying "I will wake up after every dream, remain still and keep my eyes closed" would work.
Or just saying ''I will DEILD'' may do the trick. (But I wouldn't really know).

Nah it doesn't really effect me the next day, I only write down a few notes in my journal and the next morning I can remember the entire dream with full detail and clarity, Ive always had good recall for some reason, but I suck at getting lucid, nothing at all seems to work

**JimmyD** · 09-13-2010 03:03 PM

Me too really. I remember my dreams almost every night, but only one did I wake myself up in the middle of a dream. I'm trying to do that again.

**rynkrt3** · 09-13-2010 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by JimmyD

Me too really. I remember my dreams almost every night, but only one did I wake myself up in the middle of a dream. I'm trying to do that again.

If you learn how to DEILD you can have lucids every single night. It's a simple technique to.

**dakotahnok** · 09-13-2010 04:14 PM

I would use "When i wake up i will not move or open my eyes"

**rynkrt3** · 09-13-2010 04:41 PM

Originally Posted by dakotahnok

I would use "When i wake up i will not move or open my eyes"

sounds like a good one to me, will give it a try tonight

.

Also, do you have any idea why the DEILD is so unpopular? It is a guaranteed lucid if done correctly, and learning to not move upon awakening from a dream only takes a few days, then you got it down pat, then your on your way to having tons of lucids a night... it just makes no sense to me why it is not the most popular technique.

**dakotahnok** · 09-13-2010 05:12 PM

Im actualy hoping to teach a class on DEILD... i have not gotten a yes yet but if i do get to teach the class ill let you know,

**rynkrt3** · 09-13-2010 05:17 PM

Originally Posted by dakotahnok

Im actualy hoping to teach a class on DEILD... i have not gotten a yes yet but if i do get to teach the class ill let you know,

And I'm looking to learn/master this technique cuz DILDS and MILDS just dont work for me, and I always fail at WILDS, but DEILD is easy and reliable. Nothing personal but I see you have had around 10 LD's. To teach a class on a subject or technique, don't you have to have it mastered?

**dakotahnok** · 09-13-2010 06:14 PM

I have had many DEILDs before comming to DV.

**Bobblehat** · 09-13-2010 06:23 PM

It's been widely documented that affirmations should always be stated positively. For example, if someone wants to stop smoking, they shouldn't use affirmations such as, "I will not smoke" because such an affirmation automatically makes you visualise yourself smoking. My favourite affirmation for when I've tried to DEILD is based on words from Stephen LaBerge himself and sums up nicely exactly what you should do: "Play dead."

**rynkrt3** · 09-13-2010 06:36 PM

Originally Posted by Bobblehat

It's been widely documented that affirmations should always be stated positively. For example, if someone wants to stop smoking, they shouldn't use affirmations such as, "I will not smoke" because such an affirmation automatically makes you visualise yourself smoking. My favourite affirmation for when I've tried to DEILD is based on words from Stephen LaBerge himself and sums up nicely exactly what you should do: "Play dead."

Haha, that's very true Bobblehat, preforming a DEILD is like playing dead. But what mantra should I use for DEILD?

**JimmyD** · 09-13-2010 08:05 PM

Well if you must say it positively. Not saying: "When i wake up i will not move or open my eyes", instead say ''when I wake up I will keep my eyes closed''.
That way it forces you to imagine your eyes staying closed rather than you (not) opening your eyes.

**rynkrt3** · 09-13-2010 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by dakotahnok

I have had many DEILDs before comming to DV.

Ahh, cool cool. If you get the seal of approval to teach a class on DEILD, I would love to join.

**Ray23** · 09-14-2010 12:50 AM

I too wonder why DEILD is not popular. To me it looked like the obvious choice. Ive gotten good at not moving after waking up, but only once have I managed to actually succeed. Other times, I would just wait...and wait...until I would assume it didnt work and go to sleep. Id join the DEILD class

**rynkrt3** · 09-14-2010 01:25 AM

Originally Posted by Ray23

I too wonder why DEILD is not popular. To me it looked like the obvious choice. Ive gotten good at not moving after waking up, but only once have I managed to actually succeed. Other times, I would just wait...and wait...until I would assume it didnt work and go to sleep. Id join the DEILD class

What did you do to train yourself to awaken after a dream/stay still and not open your eyes? Did you use auto suggestion?