Thread: Ask me about the paranormal.

Originally Posted by Delphinus

If Tarzan is a wild man, why doesn't he have a beard?

Originally Posted by Delphinus

You didn't answer my question.

Originally Posted by guitarboy

He's dodging them by saying "I don't quite understand" or shit like that.

Yeah, and your reading level is so high. Also, if you're actually educated in the paranormal, like me, you would know that the word "entities", when used in paranormal terms, can mean almost anything. Since you appareantly do mean spirits/ghosts, I'm going to answer now.

Originally Posted by guitarboy

Do you be believe entities can contact humans or even sense their presence.

Yes, most likely. We can sense their presence (in theory) with the feeling of chills and being watched, correct?? So why not in reverse?? Since most cases state that spirits/ghosts feed off negative emotions, this would be nessascary in survival. They would have to strike fear into the person(s) to survive, therefore needing to be able to sense our presence. It's sort of like how most (if not all) foods have calories, the most needed supplement in the body.

...You didn't answer my question. Still.

Because he shaves it. There, happy??

No. No I am not. He is a wildman. He obviously has no razors. How could he shave it?

He sharpened a stick with a rock and used that.

Now you're being ridiculous.

Originally Posted by Delphinus

Now you're being ridiculous.

Just reading how serious you're going on about this, it's a bit funny. I'm guessing you're trying to compare the paranormal with a product that we know is made by people? And in doing so you're trying to say all these paranormal claims can be anything that people want them to be? That there are really no established facts out there and all of this is simply made up?

From the start this argument is already decided and based on the view that the paranormal is false and it seeks to compare it to something that is false. In a scientist's mindset you're seeking answers for what you already believe. That's a no no. But that's just the way arguments are right? You're original question should instead be "Is the paranormal true or false and how can I evaluate the claims?" Without biased belief, we can hope to get unbiased answers.

Of course all of this is just me trying to find a reason for why you're asking about Tarzan shaving, so all of this could be very wrong. If so then then this has to be the most EPIC FAIL on dreamviews this month...

Actually, I was just being a dick.

I remeber seeing a ghost multiple times when I was a lot younger(maybe around 6 years old?) It was always at night when I was in bed and in the same spot, it would walk across the room then disappear.

That was about ten years before I knew about lucid dreaming and stuff. I never get dreaming confused with being awake, and I am pretty sure I was awake when I saw it. However, knowing what I do now, I generally have to discount anything that happens just before waking or falling asleep, and anything that happens when I wake up in the middle of the night.

Its possible it could of been a ghost, but its not beyond reality that it could of easily been a very convincing dream, or sleep paralysis(even though i remeber moving).

On the same note, you can't really accept anything that is just a flash in the distance, or seen in the corner of your eye. Or accept any vague patterns on videos. Patterns are very bad since humans will see patterns in everything, even when there is nothing. Also you cant really count creepy feelings, since everyone gets them. Nor can you believe anyone who does drugs. I know one person who hasn't done drugs for 20 years, and still say every once in a while he sees something really strange out the corner of his eye.

Now if a person sees a ghost straight on, for more than 10 seconds, in a clearly lit room or during the day, that is far more crediable. People who claim they saw full apparitions of a ghost, up close can make strong claims they have seen a ghost for real. Or if you see something totally just fly across the room, you are in good shape.

A lot of photos are poor quality and of patterns which could be anything. Some are just fake too. Though there are a lot of other photos and stuff that could be real. And some times you have to believe a person when they say, they were only one in the room when the taped the sound of a ghost talking.

Originally Posted by Alric

I remeber seeing a ghost multiple times when I was a lot younger(maybe around 6 years old?) It was always at night when I was in bed and in the same spot, it would walk across the room then disappear.

That was about ten years before I knew about lucid dreaming and stuff. I never get dreaming confused with being awake, and I am pretty sure I was awake when I saw it. However, knowing what I do now, I generally have to discount anything that happens just before waking or falling asleep, and anything that happens when I wake up in the middle of the night.

Its possible it could of been a ghost, but its not beyond reality that it could of easily been a very convincing dream, or sleep paralysis(even though i remeber moving).

On the same note, you can't really accept anything that is just a flash in the distance, or seen in the corner of your eye. Or accept any vague patterns on videos. Patterns are very bad since humans will see patterns in everything, even when there is nothing. Also you cant really count creepy feelings, since everyone gets them. Nor can you believe anyone who does drugs. I know one person who hasn't done drugs for 20 years, and still say every once in a while he sees something really strange out the corner of his eye.

Now if a person sees a ghost straight on, for more than 10 seconds, in a clearly lit room or during the day, that is far more crediable. People who claim they saw full apparitions of a ghost, up close can make strong claims they have seen a ghost for real. Or if you see something totally just fly across the room, you are in good shape.

A lot of photos are poor quality and of patterns which could be anything. Some are just fake too. Though there are a lot of other photos and stuff that could be real. And some times you have to believe a person when they say, they were only one in the room when the taped the sound of a ghost talking.

Yes, and I agree with [most of] this. Some people are druggies and some just think they see something out of their perifferals (spelling??) and I always discount those. Weird feelings aren't always the normal kind that everyone gets, though. Suddenly feeling extremely cold in a heated house is not ordinary. The feeling of being watched, however, can be caused by EMWs, which it is said that ghosts/spirits emit. But also, it emits from electronics in your house, and the feeling also comes from paranoia. Now, photos. Most of the photos do have [poor] quality, but remeber, not everyone is going to have a hiqh-quality proffesional photographer's camera in easy reach and use. That's all I'm going to say about that, though.

On your case of the ghost/spirit/entity, I have never, ever had a dream, where in the morning, I have thought was real life. Plus, you say you have seen it more than once, dreams that vivid, even recurring, almost never are so vivid that you think they're real more than once or twice.

On the same note, you can't really accept anything that is just a flash in the distance, or seen in the corner of your eye.

And I fully agree.

Indigo, Delph...keep it in senseless fellas. -.-

Stay on topic folks.

Alright alright, I'll be serious.

So, if you believe in ghosts and all that stuff, you most likely believe in different types of ghosts.

Say, I saw a ghost in my house. Upon telling others in the house that I saw the figure in a certain part of the house, they responded with similar tales. Now, perhaps some weird hoodoo mumbo kajumbo happens in different parts of the house. Say, objects moving.

Does one accept that this is one ghost or two.

I use ghosts as a broad term. Meaning, any invisible/visible entity.

Originally Posted by Jeff777

Indigo, Delph...keep it in senseless fellas. -.-

Stay on topic folks.

Was there a response I missed?

Originally Posted by Delphinus

Alright alright, I'll be serious.

So, if you believe in ghosts and all that stuff, you most likely believe in different types of ghosts.

Say, I saw a ghost in my house. Upon telling others in the house that I saw the figure in a certain part of the house, they responded with similar tales. Now, perhaps some weird hoodoo mumbo kajumbo happens in different parts of the house. Say, objects moving.

Does one accept that this is one ghost or two.

I use ghosts as a broad term. Meaning, any invisible/visible entity.



Was there a response I missed?

I'm not sure why anyone would assume that it is two entities.... Did you mean that the other person said that the things they witnessed happened at the same time as your's??

You suck so hard at this...

If a ghost is stuck in a loop, it can't be moving shit. If shit is moving, why would it appear in the same place?

Originally Posted by Delphinus

You suck so hard at this...

If a ghost is stuck in a loop, it can't be moving shit. If shit is moving, why would it appear in the same place?

Stuck in a loop?? And since when do the things that are moved appear in the same place??

I hate you.

Well for what I saw, I rememeber seeing it a few times and it basically happened the same way. I saw a greenish glow coming out from under my brothers bed on the other side of the room. It slowly got bigger and more human looking. Then I always rolled over and tried not to look, then it would disappear. I remeber it always disappeared when it got half way across the room.

I remember we rearranged the room one day, so that my bed was in a different position, and I never saw it again.

Could of also been a strange reflection of something. It could very well be a ghost or something as well. Heck I am sure someone might claim that my brother was astral projecting and it was his spirit coming out.

I just wish I would see something like that again, at my current age. Where I am able to look at it more objectively. Because really I have no idea what it was. I don't think I ever looked so closely to see if it had a face. I just remeber it being human looking.

Now if you see a ghost, and you look it in the eye. That would be something. I would like to talk to someone who looked a ghost straight in the eye. Not only because that would be cool, but because most people would run scared if they saw that.

Originally Posted by Alric

Well for what I saw, I rememeber seeing it a few times and it basically happened the same way. I saw a greenish glow coming out from under my brothers bed on the other side of the room. It slowly got bigger and more human looking. Then I always rolled over and tried not to look, then it would disappear. I remeber it always disappeared when it got half way across the room.

I remember we rearranged the room one day, so that my bed was in a different position, and I never saw it again.

Could of also been a strange reflection of something. It could very well be a ghost or something as well. Heck I am sure someone might claim that my brother was astral projecting and it was his spirit coming out.

I just wish I would see something like that again, at my current age. Where I am able to look at it more objectively. Because really I have no idea what it was. I don't think I ever looked so closely to see if it had a face. I just remeber it being human looking.

Now if you see a ghost, and you look it in the eye. That would be something. I would like to talk to someone who looked a ghost straight in the eye. Not only because that would be cool, but because most people would run scared if they saw that.

I don't actually believe in astral projection, but anyway.... If I were to look a ghost in the eye, I'd stay there. I'm one of those people who can't move when they get really scared. You should find out about some place that's rumoured to be haunted in your area. If you can't find one then just go to a graveyard (stereotypical, but true). Or even go to the hospital.

Well its like some people saying ghosts are demons, and others saying they are dead humans. No one knows, so they are just making stuff up. I am a little more inclined to believe in the possiblity of ghosts, than I am to believe a person that tells me they had a conversation with a ghost.

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BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Jesus Christ I just read this whole thread and I have no fucking clue what is happening.

As far as I can tell, TheLucid is just being a dick. Reminds me of Psionics.

Originally Posted by Delphinus

As far as I can tell, TheLucid is just being a dick. Reminds me of Psionics.

And how am I being a dick??

I'm sorry, I don't get what your question is asking.

Originally Posted by Oneironaut

I mean the Randi challenge is the equivalent of the thread someone posted in R/S about "I would probably give $1,000,000 to anyone who could convince me that God exists." Randi has a well-documented history of moving the goalposts, when testing his subjects. If he's not satisfied with an outcome, he will raise the stakes, and make the tests progressively harder, until he's come up with a way to pass off even so much as a reasonable doubt that the person is actually using the ability they are claiming they have.

The final word usually comes down to that old tag-line that "skeptics" use, whenever they can't explain a phenomenon: "Well, there has to be some rational explanation for it." Even if overwhelming evidence is in front of his/their face, a refusal to accept it is as easy as saying "Well, I might not be able to analytically debunk it, but there's an answer there somewhere. You haven't proven that what you've done is paranormal."

Such is the nature of the Randi Challenge.

But there is a rational explanation for everything. It may not always be readily available, but it's the nature of the universe. It is important not to jump to conclusions. To some, an unidentifed flying object automatically becomes an alien spaceship from space. To a more disciplined mind, an unidentified flying object remains and unidentified flying object until said object is identified. The same logic is applied to paranormal activity.

If something is inexplicable, the argument ends there. Saying something along the lines of "this can't be explained, therefore it is paranormal," is a philosophy of ignorance.