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      Men's attractiveness is based on one thing-- the appearance of power. That's it. Looks are just an attention getter.

      Looks are usually important for a woman's attractiveness, depending on the potential admirer, but personality is important too.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Universal Mind View Post
      Men's attractiveness is based on one thing-- the appearance of power. That's it. Looks are just an attention getter.

      Looks are usually important for a woman's attractiveness, depending on the potential admirer, but personality is important too.
      That's why it kicks so much ass being a guy. As much as we'd all like to deny, the looks of females plays a huge role in their lives. As a guy, you can make yourself seem more/less attractive with only a little bit of effort.
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      I'd say looks are pretty important. I think that anybody who says they aren't are pretty much deluding themselves. I mean, if you had a partner who had the greatest personality, was caring, intelligent, successful, all-around great - but was 300lbs with a crooked nose and acne - and then you had the same package rolled up into the body/face of a supermodel. Seriously. Which would you take?

      So, that being said, looks aren't the only thing. I wouldn't even call it the most important thing. But, as Adam said, initially, I need to be physically as well as mentally attracted to a woman - especially if we haven't known each other for a long time. If, however, we were friends and a romance/relationship grew from that, looks would be much less important in that situation.
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      Looking at a girl, I am generally initially turned on by looks. Though what I think is attractive isn't always conventional, it is a definite factor. Othewise in won't work. If that is coupled with an interesting personality then I'm interested.

      When I say an interesting personality I mean someone opinionated, generally interested in things like politics and such. I don't actually concern much over whether the opinions line up with my own. In fact, most of the girls I've found intruiging, (another thing I need,) have had very different views than my own.

      It needs to be someone that I can talk to intelligently about things as well as just to talk and be interested in things like the occurences of the day or anything trivial, really. She needs a sense of humor and a distinct personality.
      I put a heck of alot of value in being able to talk with the person.

      There are some people that I've thought were attractive and got to know them and lost all desire for them. And I've met girls that at first I didn't look at as all to attractive and eventually saw more beauty in them. In that situation it lines up alot with what Adam and oneironaut have said.

      But looks need to be present for both initial interest and the ability to turn me on.
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      But maybe she's the smart one. Maybe the dude has one hell of a personality, is caring, faithful, and kind.



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      Well, it depends what you mean when you say 'looks'. I need someone who can take care of themselves. Good hygiene, clean clothes, physically fit. I couldn't be with someone who refused to get a decent haircut, wash their pimply face, change out of their hammer pants, or put down the tub of ice cream.

      I think most people are beautiful if they try, and I think the most beautiful people can ruin themselves if they stop trying. So I guess I would need someone who at least recognized that appearances matter in life. Someone who at least tried.

      Plus, I think that looks can tell you a lot about how someone lives their life. Someone who can't control their weight (to a decent degree) obviously has control and addiction problems that will manifest in other areas of their life. I know this sounds mean, but I'm just speaking from my experience. Personally, I could not commit my life to someone who can't "handle their shit."

      I'm only talking about the basics, not super-conformity to societal stereotypes. I don't expect everyone to look fit and clean like Marky Mark.

      Edit: Wow, I just realized I mentioned Marky Mark and Hammer in the same post. What-the-hell kind of world am I living in?
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      Hehehe! Good responses. I'm not talking about myself here, btw, no worries.

      Can you learn to be attracted to someone, with time, who you never found attractive before you got to know them? That's happened to me before, and it confuses me, which was essentially the inspiration for this topic.

      Have you ever been attracted to someone from the start and then lost your attraction later on because the person turned out to be a dick? One of you said it has happened... and it's definitely happened to me. I've literally stopped considering someone attractive, because of a horrible personality.

      Edit: Oh, and by "looks" I don't mean basic things like hygiene. Ew!

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      I think the really attractive people in the world take some getting used to. You may need to be around them a little to see their facial movements, mannerisms, and such that make them so mesmerizing.

      Sort of like a really good song compared to a catchy song. The first time you hear a really good song, it doesn't make any sense. It may feel a bit off. You still take notice, but it doesn't get stuck in your head like the Macarena. But by the time you've heard it three times, it makes sense and you're in love for life.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Mes Tarrant View Post
      Can you learn to be attracted to someone, with time, who you never found attractive before you got to know them? That's happened to me before, and it confuses me, which was essentially the inspiration for this topic.

      Have you ever been attracted to someone from the start and then lost your attraction later on because the person turned out to be a dick? One of you said it has happened... and it's definitely happened to me. I've literally stopped considering someone attractive, because of a horrible personality.
      Yes, to both.

      People are complex. First appearances may be some of the most impressing, but it takes time to actually get to know someone. Getting to know them can have a huge affect on how attractively (even physically) you perceive them as. If you're really attracted to someone (physically) and you learn they are completely vile (personally), then you're more likely to find flaws in their appearance - thus enforcing the new notion that this person isn't very attractive overall.

      The same thing works in reverse.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Mes Tarrant View Post
      Hehehe! Good responses. I'm not talking about myself here, btw, no worries.

      Can you learn to be attracted to someone, with time, who you never found attractive before you got to know them? That's happened to me before, and it confuses me, which was essentially the inspiration for this topic.

      Have you ever been attracted to someone from the start and then lost your attraction later on because the person turned out to be a dick? One of you said it has happened... and it's definitely happened to me. I've literally stopped considering someone attractive, because of a horrible personality.

      Edit: Oh, and by "looks" I don't mean basic things like hygiene. Ew!
      That's what love is Mes.
      When you truly begin to love someone the superficial things that once mattered begin to dicipate. It's unconditional.
      Let's face it. Being attractive to someone plays a BIG role when we first meet. Sometimes that fades quickly when you begin to know the person for better or worse. So as a result the hansom man/woman becomes visually to you no more special than the next "hot" person. It really does depend on a lot more than looks.
      I'm having a hard time beleiving any of the crap I just spewed, but it must be coming from somewhere.

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      I can't wake up to ugly. Looks definitely matter and any girl or guy that says otherwise is lying to themselves and to others.

      Mama don't like no liars.

      A person knows it, people know it and the world knows it. That's why there are literally tons of billion dollar industries that play upon the insecurities of men and women to "fix what's physically wrong with them so that they'll be accepted better".


      Penis pills
      breast augmentation
      butt implants
      plastic surgery
      botox
      hair coloring
      muscle implants

      and the industry that thrives upon female insecurities the most? makeup. This industry tells women that they're not perfect...until they buy their products.

      I think people are fine the way they are. Sure makeup looks great on girls but I've also seen girls who look like dimes without any makeup whatsoever. On another note, most guys feel inadequate about the size of their member so they want to fix that...mainly because girls tell them bigger is better. So you have this giant circle of insecurities that causes us to throw money at big companies to "fix us and make us pretty".

      It's sad because I think people are fine the way they are. Btw, my "I can't wake up to ugly line" was just an opener. I'd rather have a less attractive girl who can hold a great intellectually stimulating conversation with me as opposed to a hot girl whose a bubble head that only parties, drinks and doesn't really "know" anything.

      Maybe I should work for Loreal or Maybelline and just be BLUNT with people as opposed to being secretive with my intentions. If I did, my commercial would go something like this...

      -I walk out on the screen-

      Hey girls watching this...yeah you, all you uglies in the room...you know you're atrocious to look at...thankfully I can't see you. Look, here's my beauty products that'll fix that chronic case of ugliness you seem to be suffering from. After you apply it to your face, you'll be more accepted into society and will receive more compliments on your beauty. Not to mention you won't get tranquilized for being confused with a wooly mammoth.

      -walks off the screen as the Loreal/Maybelline logo shows at the end.-

      Now let's say I worked for a penis enlargement company such as ExtenZe or EnyZte

      -I walk on the screen-

      Hey little dicks! Yeah you! Look buddy...there's a REASON we show these commercials 2 'o clock in the morning. It's because statistics show that guys who are lonely are usually up at this hour. Satisfied guys are romping in the sheets with their wife/girlfriend by now. But not you...oh no not you...you know why? -smiles and points- Because your penis is little! You have a tiny penis and you feel you can't compete with more sexually aggressive guys right? Wrong! Look buddy, I have this product that's going to enlarge your penis...well, not really enlarge it...you see it will make it LOOK like it's enlarged but all it really does is just engorge your penises blood vessels with twice as much blood giving it the appearance that it's thicker, and bigger. And you'll need to take these pills every day to keep that look...or else you'll go back down to that pencil eraser you once had the nerve to call a penis. No, this product has not been evaluated by the FDA but that doesn't matter! If you want the appearance of a bigger dick, call now!

      -walks off the screen-


      Billion...dollar...industries that our insecurities finance. Great thread Mes
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      Jeff!! ROTFLMAO!!

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      As long as there fit that's enough for me. It's hygene that matters to me. If they don't brush there teeth, bath & comb there hair, then I'm not interested.
      It's personality that matters the most to me.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Adam View Post
      So equally you could be with a guy? If he made you feel real love? I just don't see how someone can say looks matter not. And that it's all on the inside which counts... I'm sorry, but I find it hard to understand how someone can be in a relationship where there's no physical attraction whatsoever...
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      I think he means that feeling of chemical attraction, which can be caused because she's attractive, but he is saying even if she was super attractive, and he had no chemical attraction/feelings then it wouldn't matter, I think we could all agree on some level.
      I'm trying to say there's a way you can feel about someone that transcends all the laws of attraction. I'm saying you can care for somebody for no reason at all.

      And no matter who I felt that for, that's what I'm going for, even if it was a guy. If you read my entire post, I mention a distinction between love and pussy. If I'm prowling for some pussy, then YES looks matter. If you say that's all love is in the first place, then you need to go out and obtain some life experience.

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      I'm not going to lie, looks matter to me a whole lot. I'll usually only approach a girl with the intention of macking/flirting if they look good. But if she's annoying then I won't be with her just cuz she's hot. But looks definitely matter to me.

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      When i chose my partner i didnt care too much about looks, i didnt wanna be repulsed by him or anything but the personality traits you love about someone will likely last a lifetime.. a firm ass and nice arms probably wont. ( i was lucky.. i found a guy with looks and personality )


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      personality will always be the deciding factor

      but most the time to get peoples' attention, you have to be good looking in the first place and even though i'm guilty of this as is most of the population, it's still pretty sad how much looks matter, even if you try not to make them

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      Okay. Question for guys: Can you be JUST FRIENDS with a really, really hot girl, while you yourself are single? Is it possible? Okay, go!

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      Quote Originally Posted by Mes Tarrant View Post
      Okay. Question for guys: Can you be JUST FRIENDS with a really, really hot girl, while you yourself are single? Is it possible? Okay, go!
      Sure, if she's really hot and there is just no mutual attraction. But if I think she's really hot, and she thinks I'm really hot, odds are; we are going to bang. Whether or not we remain "just friends" after that...who's knows?
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      Quote Originally Posted by Mes Tarrant View Post
      Okay. Question for guys: Can you be JUST FRIENDS with a really, really hot girl, while you yourself are single? Is it possible? Okay, go!
      It would all depend on if the chemicals started racing up in my head. If she was the most beautiful girl I have ever seen, I highly doubt that wouldn't happen. In which case I'd see no reason to not like to move it further, doesn't mean I would. Sometimes I think I would rather just be alone, but at the same time I really really want to experience some kind of romance. (one of the strong contradictions I face in my personality, deep desires vs. my conscious personality).



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      Quote Originally Posted by Mes Tarrant View Post
      Okay. Question for guys: Can you be JUST FRIENDS with a really, really hot girl, while you yourself are single? Is it possible?
      Yes.

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      You don't have to be a fucking super model, but I'm not going to be smooching on something that looks like it just came from the zoo, that's for sure.
      You do this every fucking time.
      No sweat.
      No tears.
      No guilt.
      You do this every fucking time.


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      I must say, I look for personallity more then looks. But, if some girl was so ugly you would turn away at first glance, no thanks.

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      Quote Originally Posted by AmazeO XD View Post
      You don't have to be a fucking super model, but I'm not going to be smooching on something that looks like it just came from the zoo, that's for sure.
      Your mother would be upset to hear you talk about her in such a manner.





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      Seriously, many guys just go for the looks and whistle when they see a nice looking woman and stuff like that.
      Well, it can be a +, but not much more. How the person acts, live the life, thinks about different stuff and so on do i think makes much more sense.

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