tell me what you can. i understand there are secrets.
i'm interested in joining, not reading conspiracy theories.
though i do give a round of applause to those of you who question the government, religion, ect.
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tell me what you can. i understand there are secrets.
i'm interested in joining, not reading conspiracy theories.
though i do give a round of applause to those of you who question the government, religion, ect.
I wonder what it would be like to be a Free Mason...I mean, they have so many secrets and it's amazing how no one is spilling the beans...yet.
do you people watch the history/discovery channel at all?
I think I did...once...
religiousness
My uncle is a member. The whole thing is a bit weird from what i've heard.
This is an interesting take on Freemasonry from a member's perspective.
If I was good enough I would pretend to be a freemason and leak out every dirty dark secret for the world..HA!
Their probably aliens or something and their hiding some awesome treasure just for themselves I bet...Quote:
Originally Posted by guerilla
I have seen a few specials on Discovery and History, and there is even a masonic lodge in my town (In the middle of nowhere!) But what I have seen, they claim to have nothing to hide and be pure, and dismissed all rumors.:roll:
The free masons, are devil worshippers, they basically are creating a one world government/one world order, trying to screw up everybody's life and have everyone under there control. They are F***ers. and george bush is one.
I can't tell if this is sarcasm or if the forum's age check was circumvented.Quote:
Originally Posted by refresher 711
Actually GWB isn't a free mason, he is part of the skull and bones, which is a different organization for the 'record' but unofficially i don't know if they are connected?
Either way, he is a bad person.
everything is about religiousnessQuote:
Originally Posted by refresher 711
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Originally Posted by lysergic
Well, most of their "secrets" lose value outside of a religious context of steady progression. You know how that goes. I could tell you the grand high initiated legend of a group right now and it would mean nothing. But if you spend years working up to a position where you can hear it, meditating and improving yourself along the way then it has a massive value as a symbol.Quote:
Originally Posted by guerilla
Every group has dark little secrets. Every group talks differently in mixed company to with insiders. I imagine some Freemasons are bad people. Bad people are universal.
In my town three freemasons own a lot of buildings, according to rumour. One runs the local greasy spoon, which serves really brilliant breakfasts. From this I deduce the conspiracy theory that the Freemasons:
1. Have massive political power.
2. Cook a damn good breakfast.
Perfect thread.
I would be interested in joining the Freemasons, except:
1. It looks relatively easy to get into. Being a Freemason doesn't look like it really means much, as it seems 1/50 people are one.
2. The organization is so massive I have no idea how any coherency can be maintained pertaining to traditions.
3. How many people are serious about their commitment?
4. If I am going to be spending a significant amount of time in Freemasonry, I really do want to know if there is anything you really "work for," instead of simply being in a fraternity that requires you to keep rigid traditions.
What I am saying is... what is the point? If all the conspiracy theories are not true, then it is just a fraternity. With massive lodges. It may be a very good looking one, but I really don't see the point in having to attend all the meetings and all the traditions and all the ceremonies and rise in rank if it is just a Fraternity, and all it manages are internal relations.
Slap me hard if I am wrong, please.
All I see is a fraternity mired in tradition, filled with... just... people. Ordinary, everyday people who happen to respect the same values. In that case it is just a self-improvement fraternity.
Please don't take it offensively, but that is what I see. I don't want it to be an all-powerful world dominating cult like everyone else wants it to be, but could someone tell me how "deep" it really is?
well a lot of it is about working your way through the different degrees of masonry to gain access to more and more philosophical ideas. i think it's sort of a multi-purpose organization. it's about morality, charity, and good company. with philosophy still being important but really more of a side dish to the others.
rofl. that was good. plenty of info but still some good humor at the end.Quote:
Originally Posted by apachama