The Most Successful Ld Attainment Methods

[badassbob]

I'm just curious which method is the most successful for most people. I'm suprised someone hasn't already done a topic like this one, but I did search and found nothing. Happy voting ppl I found all of these in the tutorials section. EDIT: For the winging little cunts MILD: Mnemonic Induction of Lucid Dreams WILD: Wake-Initiated Lucid Dream WBTB: Wake Back to Bed HILD: Hypnosis Induced Lucid Dream NST: Named Subconscious Technique FAT: Focus Attention Technique VILD: Visually Incubated Lucid Dream DILD: Dream Initiated Lucid Dream HIT: Hypnagogic Imagery Technique Happy yet??

[Arkhan]

MILD, WBTB and DILD have been working well so far. I was also quite successful with dream re-entry but I was hardly ever lucid then. (and in the mean time I found the wonders of dream incubation)

[ilovefrootloopz]

Mine are all DILD's.... I need my mind to wander to fall asleep so that kinda limits most of them, and I have no success with WILD (no sp or sounds and crap HI).

[.jared.]

Dild and reality checks are almost the same thing arent they?

[Stoat]

Errr... My WILDing and DILDing kind of happen together... so I: am just saying WILD because it is rarer! (acting unique -that's me&#33 -Stoat

[Moonbeam]

You forgot FILD.

[SKA]

and ''spontanious lucidity'' All my Lucids were Normal Dreams in which I suddenly realised I was dreaming for no particulair reason at all. However one was a nigh I noticed my Mind was REALLY focused. I self-named it ''the single line of thought''. I used this also to set the Intention to dream Lucidly before falling asleep and found it much easier to focus on one thought (LDing) and dismissing random thoughts. And almost immedeately after falling asleep unconciously I found myself ''somewhere else'' and did an RC after I just suddenly KNEW I was dreaming, just to be sure. This is a really meditative state of Mind. But does that make this particulair LD induced by MILD? RC-technique or overall Clearmindedness? Can anyone reflect on what might have happened there? Seems like Spontanious Lucidity but I may be mistaken.

[badassbob]

and ''spontanious lucidity'' All my Lucids were Normal Dreams in which I suddenly realised I was dreaming for no particulair reason at all. [/b] Yeah, I don't know how I missed that one, because I discovered LDing through spontanious lucidity years ago.

[zoo york is cool]

Reality checks or MILD work best for me. Those two I found easier.

[anonymous2004]

You forgot FILD(finger induced lucid dream). It has been very successful for me.

[ZenVortex]

You forgot CILD (Chocolate Induced LD)

[wombing]

WBTB, in conjunction with either MILD, or WILD.

[badassbob]

WILD has always been my favorite, because it always results in high level lucidity, and great dream control for me. Though, I have more DILD's, but these are usually low level and often don't last much more than a minute.

[Jess]

Could you edit the poll and put the full names next to the abbreviations? I haven't got a clue what some of them are!

[TweaK]

Your choices don't make sense. Learn your techniques. WILD is a 'category', a way of attaining lucidity, not an incubation technique :/ Be more specific. Although I guess you could've meant "Any kind of WILD except Dream re-entry", but then "HIT" (HI Technique?) wouldn't make sense cause that's a WILD. WBTB is just waking up, [stay awake for an indefinite amount of time] and then go back to sleep or WILD. WBTB is used in combination with another technique, WBTB alone isn't a technique. You could say.. "Spontaneous lucidity after WBTB", or "WILD with WBTB", or whatever. NST [Don't know what this is] FAT [Don't know what this is] DILD - It's a fucking category. MILD, Reality Check realised lucidity, spontaneous lucidity, dream incubation, it's all DILD. Be more specific on what DILD you are talking about.

[towarmforacoat]

I just started attempting WILDs, but they have proven uneventful. So until I perfect WILDs, I have my LDs by chance in the form of a DILD.

[godfather89]

I would have to say the VILD, WBTB and WILD for me are my top 3. Not in a specific order...

[OmnipotentTitan]

I cant do reality checks, I would go crazy when i am awake.

[clarkkent]

There's also a CAT method which hasn't been listed here. I haven't tried it. From the lucidity forum: CAT Method for the induction of regular lucid dreams. (Cycle Adjustment technique) ©2004 Daniel Love This is a method i intend to publish in my upcoming book - Hence the copyright. However please feel free to distribute, copy etc. as long as the document remains in its entirety and is not used for profit. The CAT method is a technique i discovered after long consideration into the psychological versus biological basis for Lucid Dream induction. It is apparent to most i would imagine that Lucid dreaming induction has its basis in both the biological and psychological approach. However whilst there are many effective techniques for the induction of lucid dreaming, many focus on a mostly psychological approach. The CAT method is my attempt to naturally adjust the mind-body cycles in a way that creates an improved environment for its psychological elements to perform. CAT is a relatively intensive regime, however despite the intensity it has resolved many of the difficulties associated with other methods. A short list of what i consider to be the notable benefits of this technique are as follows: 1 Non of the problems returning to sleep associated with other methods. 2 No complex visualizations. 3 No need for constant practice or effort in the majority of ones daily life. 4 No need to extend ones wake time. Hence can be used by those with strict sleep-wake times. 5 Uses a simple natural function of the human mind. 6 The Lucid dreams produced with this method occur in the longest REM period of the night. Also due to the nature of the technique a mild REM rebound effect may occur helping lengthen and strengthen the lucid dream. 7 A powerful memory is not required. A few of the possible negatives for this method are as follows: 1 There is a strict regime that needs to be adhered to. 2 Lucid dreams occur in specific time periods. 3 Sleep cycles are adjusted. 4 An intensive period of habit formation is required. However this is restricted to a single otherwise unused period in the day. This being the case i would recommend this technique to anyone who needs to awaken at the same time everyday and cannot find time during the daytime to really focus on lucidity induction techniques. People who have a hard time visualizing complex scenes will also benefit. I am very proud of the CAT method and in my experience as both a Lucidity coach and regular lucid dreamer it is one of the single most effective methods for producing consistent, durable lucid dreams. What you can expect from the CAT method: At best CAT will produce 4 long, clear and memorable lucid dreams a week. THE CAT METHOD By Daniel Love. ©2004 Free for distribution in it's entirety for non-profit groups. This technique is DEPENDANT upon a regular sleep-wake cycle and hence is perfect for those who have a fixed daily routine in the sense that bedtime and wake time fit a consistent structure. Stage 1 The Cycle adjustment and intensive habit formation period. Duration - 1 Week. The function of this stage is 3 fold: a) To develop a habitual response triggered by and focused in a specific time period. b) To adjust the mind-body cycle to promote an increased biochemical tendency towards awareness at a specific time. c) Preparation for stage 2 of the technique. ***For the success of this method it is vital a strict adherence to the regime is followed.*** Stage 1 is to last 7 days and in these 7 days you are to do the following: 1) Clearly define your regular bedtime (BT) and wake time (WT) and alter these only in accordance to these instructions. 2) Adjust your regular wake time so that you shall be awakening 90 minutes earlier, this new time shall be referred to as the adjusted wake time (AWT.) Set your alarm to awaken you at the AWT for the duration of STAGE 1. 3) Each night at BT clearly set the intention to awaken at the AWT and follow the task set for this period: 4) Upon being awoken by your alarm at the AWT you are to get up and do whatever you wish for the next 90 minutes (you will NOT be returning to bed) HOWEVER whilst going about your business in these 90 minutes you shall perform a REALITY TEST every 2 to 5 minutes (use a reminder such as an electronic egg timer if this helps.) 5) Once the 90 minutes are up (this is your regular WT) proceed with your day as usual. You can if you wish REALITY TEST throughout the day but this is entirely optional(but no doubt beneficial.) 6) Repeat this task for the seven day period and then move to stage 2. As you can see you are developing time specific reality tests and adjusting the time at which your body-mind "gears up" (increasing activity/chemicals in the various awareness centers to promote the required awareness for awakening.) Now we are ready for STAGE 2 STAGE 2 Lucid dream induction period. Duration: ongoing. The function of this stage is 8 fold. d) Continue the time specific habitual response development. e) Create a mild REM rebound effect to increase the Strength, Length and Clarity etc.. of the used REM period. f) Induce lucid dreams. g) Focus lucid dreams to occur in the longest REM period. h) Fluctuate the sleep wake cycle. i) Promote a bio-chemical tendency towards awareness within a specific REM period. j) Perform the time specific habitual reality tests within REM. k) Increase the likelihood of awakening directly from and remembering the Lucid Dream. Stage 2 is an ongoing process, to be repeated daily. It is important not to miss any days practice. If the technique is to be used over long periods (several months) the occasional 'top up' of a repeat of Stage 1 may be required. If the technique is stopped for any reason, it is important upon re instigation to start again from stage 1. Stage 2 is in two parts. Each day you are to alternate between Part A and Part B. That is to say: On monday:part a - Tuesday:part b - wednesday part:a - Thursday part:b etc. etc. ad infinitum STAGE 2 PART A This is simplicity in itself. At bedtime clearly state the intention to follow your time specific habitual reality tests at the AWT. HOWEVER set your alarm clock to awaken you at your REGULAR WT. As far as your mind is concerned you have set the intention to awake at AWT and intensively reality test. You will however not be awoken by your alarm (as it is set for your regular WT) Hopefully the following should occur: The AWT arrives, your mind has geared up for awakening but receives no external cue (the alarm) so remains asleep - however, your body-mind clock is primed to increase awareness and perform its intensive reality tests at the AWT. This coupled with a mild REM rebound (from the earlier wake time of previous night) should result in a long period of REM in which your mind is set at increased activity AND in a time period that you have designated and installed as the habitual intensive reality test period. A PRIME ENVIRONMENT FOR LUCIDITY TO OCCUR! Alternatively you may awaken naturally at the AWT - if this occurs remain still, remind yourself of your intention to intensively reality test and attempt to induce a WILD with your preferred method. STAGE 2 PART B This is identical in all respects the method outlined in stage 1. Simply awaken at the AWT perform intensive (every 2 to 5 minutes) reality tests for 90 minutes. The only difference is you only perform this on the 1day rather than the 7 - as tomorrow you shall return to stage 2 part A. **each day henceforth alternate between STAGE 2 PART A and STAGE 2 PART B.** Due to the odd number of days in the week you will find that each consecutive week part a and part b shall fall on different days (one week monday is A next week B etc..) Also you will notice within each fortnight one week shall contain 3 potential lucid dream periods whilst the other shall have 4. And that's it. the CAT method. I do hope it is as useful to you as it has been for me. One last thing, Occasionally you may like to extended your regular WT (such as at the weekend) and have a longer sleep. Of course this is not possible if this falls on a PART B day (and potentially negative for the whole method) However the occasional WT extension on a PART A day may allow for longer REM/Lucid dream periods. Even so it should still be kept to a minimum as to not upset the sleep wake cycle too often. I would appreciate any feed back on this method. It is still to be researched on a wide enough scale to give a definitive report of its success rate. In studies with myself and my students i have found it to be highly effective at inducing lucid dreams (with 8 out of 10 students reporting at least one lucid dream (an average of 2) within the first 2 weeks.) I would appreciate your reports, ideas and lucid dreams induced by this method. Please mail them to: [email protected] I may wish to include your responses in my new book. Please make it clear if you do not wish for this to occur.[/b]

[Jess]

I forgot about CAT, I tried it once and gave up during the first week! I'm going to try it again starting tomorrow....

[Patrick]

For me, when it's not by chance, it's when I'm exiting and re-entering dreams in the early morning.

[TweaK]

Could anyone summarize the CAT technique?

[Jess]

Could anyone summarize the CAT technique? [/b] - Get up 90 minutes earlier than usual for 7 days and do reality checks every few minutes for the full 90 minutes. - From day 8 onwards, alternate between doing the above, and just waking up at your normal time, on alternate days. Let me know if you try it.

[Kerian]

ok so isn't a RC just a DILD?

[TweaK]

Yes. Read my 2 posts ago in this topic post. I already explained how some of the options made no sense.