Revolution can only be achieved by love!

[Luanne]

Ok, HaRd_WiReD, pls go to edit > find > then type in 'fear' > find next > find next... Seriously, do that.

[HaRd_WiReD]

good point.

I'm saying still, the more fear you release, the better you feel. Fear of anything...that includes fear of social situations. Just stop fearing...of shit on on the news, the NWO, all of it. Fear is just a system of control.....

Be happy....life is meant to be enjoyed

talking about the NWO, It's like I'm spreading fear huh...

good point, good point

[Rainman]

Ah, I get it now. That makes sense too. And before any law of attraction skeptics post here, let explain how the law of attraction ACTUALLY works.

First of all, I believe in a collective consciousness. For those of you who do not, I will explain the scientific and verified elements of the law of attraction that you can try yourself.

The law of attraction is a psychological phenomenon, in my opinion. If it's not, then at the very least, you can get the same exact results by using auto-hypnosis and self-suggestion while knowing how the process works. I do this constantly to get what I want, because I know how it ACTUALLY works.

The makers of the "secret" hyped it up to be some New Age magical phenomenon, when it's not. It's purely psychological. As most of you know, the subconscious level of your mind is not necessarily predominantly present in your actions, but it PROBABLY is, and is DEFINITELY the more logical, highly more intelligent, and the part of your spectrum of consciousness that has seemingly limitless potential. It can make you do things. It can almost think (and in a way, it does anyway) think completely independently of you.

Your subconscious helps you to achieve things that you appear to want, or that you give the most attention to. It alerts you to them. Something terrible might happen to you in a day, and you may sink into a really bad mood in which everything seems to make you angry. But anger is your perception, and when you choose to experience that perception (yes, that is a choice you do make- it's just a hard choice, but rest assured, it's completely optional) then your subconscious picks up on it and says, "aha! A pattern! I must want more of this." And so it creates situations for you that give you more of what you've been focusing on.

Here's the part that always gets raped with mysticism, and whether they are right or wrong, at least on a level that we can understand, THIS is how it actually works.

Your subconscious can cause you to experience "whims." It is what causes you to experience emotions. It's what causes you to experience lapses, and recoveries of memory. It's responsible for memory. Your dreams. When ever you suddenly think of something, it's because your subconscious said, "Hmm, s/he was supposed to remember something.. I better remind him/her." (Obviously that's an exaggerated example, it doesn't actually "say" those things, most likely.)

My point is, your subconscious will use memory, feelings, dreams, and other similar parts of your human experience to give you what you tell it. The problem is, most people aren't aware of what they're telling their subconscious.

The conscious mind is smart in a different sense than the subconscious mind. In our conscious minds, we're able to do things like solve math problems, or speak, or philosophize (is that a word?) Compared to the subconscious mind, the conscious mind is infinitely moronic, and impedes our development in many ways. NOT in all ways, just in many. The subconscious can serve as a way to guide the conscious mind. A lot of people mistake functions of the subconscious mind for psychic phenomena. That's why I believe most "psychics" are phonies, but they genuinely don't know they are. The abilities of the subconscious can explain everything they do.

So it will assume that you will consciously forget the things that you (perhaps) unknowingly programmed it to do. It's "coding" is very simple. You tell it to "do this" and it will "do this." There is no critical factor like there is with the conscious mind, whose response would be, "uh.. why?" The subconscious mind will almost always do what it's told. With that in mind, also understand that our subconscious can RUN us. Completely. If it is told something, it will take control and run us. That's just how it works.

So when you focus on one thing, like in Hard_Wired's concept that we're focusing on fear, in that sense, we are choosing to make that thing bigger. If I'm afraid of spiders, and I one day happen to see a documentary about spiders or something, then that's what I'd likely continue to think of on a conscious level. Consciously I'd be thinking, "oh god, I hope there are no spiders in here... i dont' want to see spiders... I don't want to think about spiders... I don't want to fear spiders anymore, because I hate everything about spiders."

By focusing on what I do not want to see, and focusing on my fear of spiders, my subconscious will hear, and act upon it differently- "I don't want to see spiders, I don't want to think about spiders, I don't want to fear spiders anymore, because I hate everything about spiders."

The phrases in bold are interpretted as commands. No that's not my opinion, it is fact. That's how it works. Those who understand hypnosis, or even a basic understanding of communications or social psychology (or even general psychology) already know this. That is why negatives get bigger. If you're afraid of something, you focus on it, and your subconscious thinks that because you're focusing on it, it must be something that you want, thus it will cause you to notice things that you otherwise may not notice.

It will cause you to react to things in ways you may not have reacted otherwise. It will do all of this to very methodically try to create situations for you in which you recieve, or notice more of what you've chosen to focus on. This may not seem very clearly explained, but I dont' want to continue to ramble. If anyone has any specific questions, feel free to ask me in PM.

My point of saying all this is that Hard_Wired is right. Focusing on them will make them bigger. If everyone else focuses on what they DON'T want, which is an NWO takeover, then each individual will be unknowingly guided by their subconscious' to not only allow, but create that reality.

So WAKE UP. :p

[lseadragon]

Originally Posted by Rainman

Flouride. Toxic.

Really.

I did my own looking at some anti-fluoride sites, and I remain quite unconvinced of a conspiracy. Those sites seemed to focus on the effects of consumption of or exposure to excessive amounts of flouride, substantially higher than what you would find in the water.

I also keep seeing these sites stating flouride is a deadly poison (like you're saying). Guess what, Botox is far deadlier, and millions of people use that.
Is it not said that the difference between medicine and poison is dosage?

I won't deny there were some effects on smaller groups that seemed more plausible in the quantities given (people with kidney disease, for instance, that can't process fluoride properly) but given the specificity of this it seems much more like a governmental side-effect bungle than a conspiracy to harm.

[HaRd_WiReD]

Fluoride is toxic, plain and simple, that's why it says what it says on the back of tooth paste...contact a POISON CONTROL if you swallow it

They fluoride the water because it calcifies the pineal gland( responsible for lucid dreams )...they don't want you lucid dreaming and shit. They need to poison the food and water...so you can get sick...so you can buy their drugs and pills and shots...it's simple.

Your body naturally heals itself if you are happy. Most dis-eases and illnesses start from stress in the mind. Look into the placebo effect.

Rainman, I see your in the know...but most of this stuff is too "mystical" for people...it's sad really.

Who knew that you can heal your own body, and attract what you want in life from just being happy....that's why society try's to keep people in a state of fear. Imagine if everyone knew the LOA, we could manifest any type of future we wanted. Scientists are even saying this with the Global Consciousness Project.

[Lucidity444]

Hard_Wired and Rainman

You guys are totally right. No matter how much it bugs me I just need to stop focusing on all this conspiracy bullshit and work on my own spirituallity.
I've realized a few things from this post, and what luane said is true as well.

I'm going to go read the Inner Guide Meditaion by Steinbrecher, thanks for the posts, I've learned abit from them

[Xei]

-_-

Fluoride in tiny quantities is a health benefit as it prevents tooth decay. That's why they put it in water and toothpaste. I don't know what toothpaste you use but mine only recommends that you contact a dentist if you consume large quantities of fluoride from another source. This is because fluoride in large quantities (10g or more) is a poison. In the same way that having a small quantity of salt in your diet is vital, but eating a bag of salt will probably destroy your kidneys.

That's partially true, Xei, and as usual, you present excellent points. That said, there are exceptions to that theory. Take an angry mob for example. It is comprised of ordinary individuals- many or most of which who would never do anything on their own to harm anyone. And yet, when they all come together, as a whole, they do things. Terrible things. Burn buildings, start riots, beat down and attack police (while they are able) etc.

That alone obviously doesn't prove the idea of a collective conscious on the level that most people refer to it, but it does disprove that each individual is not necessarily distinct and isolated on a mental subconscious level from anyone. Take also for example the rapport-building technique of mirroring. It's something that the person being affected by won't notice. But they will begin to move with you. They may even start a conversation. This is not a coincidence. I'm not claiming it to be anything mystical- I know for a fact that it is pure science, based on subconscious triggers that cause people to react- which is my point.

Anyway, just my opinion.

Also, like I said before, there must be a balance. I think with people as purely evil as the nutjob elites running the NWO, love in any amount will not sway them.

AWARENESS!

Awareness will stop them. In my opinion, one of the biggest reasons the Nazi movement in Germany to kill all those jews worked, is that almost no one (or at least a completely tiny minority) knew what was really happening.

Well same deal in America right now. The fucking news. The stupid shit in the media. Reality tv. "Entertainment" which is really designed to distract your critical thinking. Dumb you down. And on a majority of Americans (previously definitely including me) it works. If everyone wakes up and realizes wtf is going on soon enough, there will be a much easier time of combating it.

The other thing is, everyone is so preoccupied with the insane things that are going on with the NWO that have already come to pass, that no one realizes the measures that are already being taken to STOP it. In may of this year, 20 states were declaring sovereignty from the federal government. Look up the interviews on youtube.

Unfortunately, gun control is the next huge huge huge issue. We must protect things like internet neutrality (if you don't know what it is LOOK IT UP RIGHT NOW), and gun control first and foremost. "Love" can come after I say.

Well of course, naturally we can influence the 'contents of each others' consciousnesses' by interacting with them... I don't think that's really related to the idea of a single consciousness.

And I don't think there's any evidence to support any ulterior motives for entertainment. I think reality TV is simply made because huge numbers of people enjoy that kind of thing just because they're bored, and it makes TV companies a lot of money.

There's really a lot of evidence to the contrary actually. Just look at how easy to communicate nowadays. Entertainment companies have fully backed the development of the internet, and it is now absurdly easy to disseminate information throughout the entire world in a matter of seconds. So really, completely contrary to any conspirator's wishes. We live in quite a fantastic age for freedom of information and freedom of speech.

[Invader]

HaRd_WiReD, you quoted me earlier,

I was not familiar with the sharp and flat notes of our scale. O posted a video from a TED
talk (right?) that was about the pentatonic scale, and although I was fascinated by the
concept, I hadn't looked into it since. If it's true that the black keys cannot be played in an
inharmonious manner, I'd like to give that a shot. Unfortunately, my keyboard was put into a
storage unit.

I was also kidding about the galactic federation thing, but that's not to say that I've never
wishfully thought of such a scenario. Goodbye medical problems, hello space travel.


Also, since I did not intend to deviate from the subject of the post, I agree that any form of
revolt in the U.S. would likely lead to the justification of putting our internment camps to use.
Sitting back and weathering the storm, however, would only allow our dark masterminding
individuals to walk all over us. A middle ground, perhaps, would fix this. I'm thinking along
the lines of a small task force. If military action was ever to be used on the public afterwards,
there would more than likely be revolt from individuals within the military branch itself, being
that the general public would have had nothing to do with it and undeserving of any punishment.

[Xei]

There are degrees of harmony; it's really quite subjective. The only really horrid notes you can play together are a semitone apart or six semitones apart, and this isn't possible on pentatonic scales, so you can just mash anything together. The black keys on the piano happen to form a pentatonic scale (there's 11 others starting on different notes). There are other sets of notes where you can do the same thing, for example if you just played notes from C, E, and G.

[imran_p]

Originally Posted by Rainman

I'm afraid I've got to agree with Hard_Wired.

I believe the plot for the NWO probably exists. I don't think it will succeed. I also think, in part, that's a problem. You see, these nutjobs will never accept defeat. They will continue to cause death to millions and millions of people. Orchestrated "terrorist" bullshit. I hate to say this, but the more I think about this, the more I just say kill the fuckers.

They are insane. They really believe that their little plan for world domination will work, and they will literally destroy the world before that actually happens. There is, in my opinion, no way to accomplish this. This generation, while still completely ignorant and mindfucked in many ways, is actually starting to wake up.

But these elites, or the Illuminati, or whatever you want to call them, I don't think they realize that they can't win, and to me, that's even more dangerous than the prospect of a New World Order. They will just do MORE things to fuck the world over. I'm not worried about the NWO succeeding. Worst case, we'd still all be alive (probably). I'm worried about them failing, and not understanding that they have failed.

Do you understand how MUCH shit they actually run? How many puppets in high places they actually have? It's freaky dude.

And imran_p, I understand where you're coming from. Really I do. Look up my posts from about a year ago. Hard_Wired (or maybe it was someone else) was talking about this, and I slammed it down. I bashed, and flamed and called it all bullshit.

But then I started doing research. Not biased shit. Just cold hard facts that can be found on Government websites. Read up on what the Codex trade program is. A majority of your food and water is loaded with toxins. Flouride. Toxic. It's in almost every major cities tap water.

If you know how to test for chemicals on surfaces or in liquids, you can actually verify that one yourself. Just go to your sink. Fill your glass with tap water. Test it for hexaflouridine.

Just little things like that. They all add up. I really try not to jump to conclusions, but dude, there's not a lot of other things that this could be. I try not to jump to conclusions because doing that is exactly what got us into all of these fucked up world situations. Government told us shit and we went with it.

Just keep an open mind. I am VERY open to the idea that all of these crazy conspiracies happening are unrelated and completely isolated events. However, I also keep in mind that there really could be a plot for the NWO. I think everyone should just keep an open mind, and think about all of the things that are happening. Like I said, if it's true, simple awareness of said conspiracies will destroy their chances of success.

I think you may be failing to see where I'm coming from. I do keep an open mind. Two years ago I was conspiracy theory nutjob, but after reading some of Mckenna's work, quite a lot of Chomsky's work, and experimenting with enethogens, it occured to me that in reality I don't know much at all. I'm pretty sure that the majority of what I'm told and ahve been told in my short life is a lie. The government does not want to protect us, it wan'ts to control us; the entire state of the world is fucked up. And yes there are an economic elite that have insane amounts of control, but in reality the'yre probably just puppets. Does Obama really have any power, or is he a puppet? I don't know, I only know what they tell me and they're probably lying. Whose in control, I don't know. i can trust the governments bullshit like most people; I can trust the words of some internet conspiracy theorist who claims incredible things that appear plausible, yet contain numerous "facts" that are extremely hard to validate. The way I see if it i am in complete agreement with Mckenna, in that direct experience needs to be valued much higher. We must accept our ignorance, or you'll go crazy trying to figure what the fucks going on.
Why we are being controlled in a such a manner. Why can't I smoke a plant that grows naturally in the ground, yet i can drink a drink that causes millions of deaths, rapes and all round violence? Why do I have to let them know if I enter a different "country", an irrelevant human concept. The very idea that if I smoke this plant that makes me feel relaxed, I will get taken by men with guns and locked up in a cell with murderers in mind boggling. This applies to thousands of laws. So much about this world can leave you feeling depressed, angry, and at the same time very fortunate. In the end you just have to rely on direct experience, live for the moment, because in reality you don't the truth about this big game they're playing, and you never will.
When people come out and talk with complete confidence about the NWO, what their plans are, who it consists of, what they're up to and how long they've been about, they're extremly deluded. They know nothing, its all conjecture.

The way I see it, on the timeline of the universe the lifespan of humanity as a speices will be a dot. And yes, there are a few people taking a giant shit on almost everybody else. Oh well? It's horrible, its unfortunate, but you've just got to live with it and enjoy every moment of the short time you're on this earth.

[HaRd_WiReD]

Yes Invader.

About the black keys, yes they are harmonic and a wrong note cannot be played. But what's important is that there are 5 black keys each octave and it follows the perfect fifth, which is a ratio of 3:2, which is the golden ratio or Phi.

The golden ratio is what sacred geometry is all about. Everything in nature has a ratio of 3:2. The human body has a ratio of 3:2, from the universe down to a subatomic particle. Everything follows a 3:2 ratio. This proves that the universe is not chaotic or random. Someone tried to debate whether that 3:2 pattern evolved over time to what it is now.....not likely. It was always like this, ancient cultures knew about sacred geometry and included it in their music and architecture.

You know the law of attraction is funny, because it's a lot more difficult to have positive thoughts about something rather than negative thoughts. Proof of the state of mind we are in as a collective mind.

[Xei]

Hahahaha.

The golden ratio isn't 3:2 anyway. You have no idea what you're talking about.

Seriously are you just making this stuff up as you go along now..?

[grasshoppa]

It's 1.61903:1 roughly...lol

Trust me, I'd love nothing more for it to be 3:2 as it would have a correlation to the #23...

[Xei]

2 and 3 aren't really related to 23 mathematically. Only because the Arabs arbitrarily decided to use base 10 do they look similar.

i.e. 2*10 + 3*1 = 23, but you might as well have chosen 2*7 + 3*3 = 23. Or 2*9 + 3*1 =! 23.

In fact you can choose 2*m + 3*n to be absolutely any integer you like if you choose the right m and n. You can prove this with Euclid's algorithm. Proper maths tends to be a lot more interesting than vague or completely fallacious maths.

[Supernova]

Originally Posted by Rainman

I believe the plot for the NWO probably exists. I don't think it will succeed. I also think, in part, that's a problem. You see, these nutjobs will never accept defeat. They will continue to cause death to millions and millions of people. Orchestrated "terrorist" bullshit. I hate to say this, but the more I think about this, the more I just say kill the fuckers.

They are insane. They really believe that their little plan for world domination will work, and they will literally destroy the world before that actually happens. There is, in my opinion, no way to accomplish this. This generation, while still completely ignorant and mindfucked in many ways, is actually starting to wake up.

True, let's not forget every person or group who has tried to acheive world domination in the past has failed miserably.

Every empire has it's end. Even if they did acheive their NWO, it wouldn't last.

[Rainman]

I certainly hope that is the case this time around, Supernova.

Xei, flouride can slow the process of tooth decay, but it is more toxic than helpful. That is a fact. Flouride is poisonous the the human body. Want to know the best way to prevent tooth decay? Get the proper nutrients your body needs. Seriously. People who live in low-technology, isolated tribes in the mountains far from cities often are found to have perfectly healthy teeth because they eat correctly. We're not thinking on an evolutional level here. If teeth could not succeed without man-made chemicals to be strong, then we wouldn't have teeth at this point. Evolution.

Flouride in small doses is overall not harmful. However, for the past however many decades, you've been consistantly taking it in. Toxic. Modern dentistry in general is a scam, in my opinion. None of what they do would be necessary if people got the right nutrients. (I'm not trying to be condescending, Xei, I actually admire your rather informative posts, and keen perspective on everything.)

imran_p, you're right. I guess we can't truly know anything. Nor am I saying that I know that there is a plot for the NWO. I'm just saying based on all that's happening, there probably is one. The interesting thing is that no one seems to report on the shit that's being done to PREVENT it.

My point wasn't that they will succeed, my point is that they are so radical, that they will allow the world to end before they will give up their shot at control They'll never stop trying. Funny thing is, if all this Illuminati shit is true, then that means we can blame religion for another insane mass-killing and attempt at world domination. Go figure.

haha.

Xei, I haven't ignored your thoughts on entertainment industry. I don't entirely agree with you on the innocence of the entertainment industry, but I haven't organized my thoughts into a reasonable presentation for why I don't agree with you. I can't justify it yet, so I'll post later.